Using Pro Type Titler in Vegas Pro 15

[George Dean]

Hi Stan,

Taking a stab, I cannot reproduce your issue. Can you post a screenshot of what the preview looks like and maybe a screenshot of the text you added and the changes of the effects you are using?

Also, have you performed a full reset of Vegas Pro? Hold down the ‘Ctrl+Shift’ keys and double left click on the Vegas desktop shortcut. Then check the box ‘Delete all cached application data’, then left click on ‘Yes’. This will reset Vegas to it’s original installation settings and delete the pesky cached application data that will build up and sometimes make Vegas do strange things!

Best Regards……George

[Stan Willis]

Many thanks for your quick reply George. If I hold down the ‘Ctrl+Shift’ keys and double left click on the Vegas desktop shortcut the program just launches (or rather the user account control box pops up). If I could do a full reset this might solve some other problems – many crashes – much lower frame rate playback than just after the original install.
Incidentally my kit is
Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz
RAM 16.0GB Triple-Channel DDR3 @ 534MH
Mobo ASUSTeK Computer INC. P6T SE (LGA1366)
Graphics 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (NVIDIA)
SSD system drive and a couple of other HDs
Stan

[George Dean]

Try it again Stan, first left single click on the desktop shortcut, then hold down ‘Ctrl+Shift’ and double left click on the shortcut. Sometimes I have to do it again as I don’t get it correct the first time.

Best Regards……George

[Stan Willis]

Many Thanks again George,
I tried many times doing this but I coiuldn’t get this to work with my setup. I remembered then something I have used before in previous versions of Vegas and that was how to get into the internal mode of the preferences. I did this and the top item is a reset on startup. I change this to TRUE and restarted Vegas. This appeared to work – my recent files list (under Files) was empty. However the problem with Pro Type Titler remains. Essentially in the plugin it all looks OK but on the preview window I only have this glow which moves around the path I have created. I can alter the glow by changing the Stroke and Background colour but changes to the colour and alpha in Fill have no effect and the text remains invisible. I hope I have succeeded in attaching a snip done under Add compositing mode. (Changes to the compositing mode produce the expected changes) (I tried to do this via the popup window which appeared when I clicked on the second from the end icon in the row of icons below the word “Message”)

[George Dean]

Hi Stan,

Can you make up a test project, with one video clip added to the timeline and then the Pro Type Titler adjusted to show what is going on. Then upload only your project veg file, which will not include any video files, but I can then load that with using my source media files and see how you have adjusted the Pro Type Titler?

Also, setting Vegas to reset on startup will reset the program, but unless I’m mistaken it will not delete the cached application data which is the most important part of the full reset. Do you have an Icon Shortcut for Vegas on your desktop? If not trying to do the full reset starting Vegas from any other place will not work, it has to be done from a desktop icon shortcut. Strange yours will not work.

Best Regards……George

[Stan Willis]

Thanks again George. I do have the desktop icon with the light blue V on a dark blue background. I’ve just tried your instructions several times with the same results as previously.
I set up a one clip project, messed around with the Titler settings and that appears to work as expected with clear text visible. I tried trimming the longer project I had been experimenting on to one clip with Titler added and that appears to still have the same problem it had before. I’ve uploaded the projects up to dropbox (is there a way of uploading to creative cow directly?). I also included the snip of what the problem looks like (under the compositing mode Add.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cho8dw0gxw19g2i/AADtjnuAohtCbZ1QMk4d3Fcga?dl=0

I normally work with 4K gh5 footage where I had similar problems. I have been trying with these projects to use older GH3 HD footage to simplify the load.

Incidentally, I find that Vegas 15 (bought through the Humble Pie deal) crashes a lot – hardly ever get through an hour without a crash. My previous versions of the Sony Movie Studio (?) were a lot more robust. Maybe if I could find a way of deleting that cache you talk about…….
Many thanks for sticking with this,
Stan

[George Dean]

Stan, I’m somewhat at a loss as to what is going on here, maybe I just don’t have enough knowledge about Pro Type Titler to help.

Your project does the same thing in my Vegas Pro 15, as you show in your screenshot and describe. I cannot fix any of your Pro Type Titles, nor can I start from scratch and create what has happened to yours!

Can you provide a step by step process you are using to create the problem title, for me to follow, and at what point do things go wrong?

I have copied your title to a new project and the problem follows the copy, so I dono’t think it is connected to anything in your projects that are causing the issue, rather something in Pro Type.

Best Regards……George

[Stan Willis]

Thanks again George,
Originally I was having problems in a 4k project. I had watched a very good tutorial and I was experimenting – trying to create some titles. I can’t remember the sequence of steps I took but I do remember the plugin didn’t respond in the way it had in the tutorial. I then created an HD project with half a dozen clips and experimented and got similar problems. The first time I got it to work was when I created a single clip project as you suggested.
It’s reassuring to me that the two projects I uploaded behave in the same way on your system as that suggests, as you say, that the problem is in Pro Type. You have been very kind to have put all this effort in to trying to resolve my problem. I think now I will just not use this plugin. I use Resolve as well but Vegas Pro is better at rendering for me. I have been very impressed by the speed of the GPU assisted Magix HEVC renders. Thanks again – I have subscribed to your posts.

[Paul Berk]

Stan .. it’s your frame size in ProType. You have the frame at 8 x 8 .. so squished it is glowing. Change to 1920 x 1080 which are your project properties ..

[George Dean]

Ding…Ding…Ding…we have a WINNER folks. Paul I completed missed that, great job.

Best Regards……George