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  • Using “Film Safe” in FCP?

    Posted by Richard Boddington on November 16, 2006 at 5:12 pm

    Does any one else know about Film Safe? I have looked all over the FCP menus, and all over the help, and I can’t find a thing on this (see below).

    I would love to know where it is and how to set it up.

    Thanks in advance.
    Richard

    “I make an edit on a 3:2 pulldown frame in my offline. This can cause a flash frame that will need to be fixed by stopping the assembly.

    Then there is Cinema Tools, which I have never used. Can any one give me their work flow for using Cinema Tools to offline a 24fps film show?

    How did you set up the FCP project?

    Did you strip off the 3-2 pull down with Cinema Tools on the source footage after you loaded it all in? You did you remove it from the final time line edit only?”

    Two things:

    1. If you do edit in 29.97, FCP lets you tag your clips with “Film Safe” thus preventing you from making edits in places which will later cause flash frames.

    Jeremy Garchow replied 19 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Steven Gonzales

    November 16, 2006 at 5:37 pm

    I just received my cross grade, and I looked through the new features, and the manual, and I don’t see anything about film safe.

    You are able to display film properties in the canvas and viewer. Perhaps that will allow you, while editing at 29.97, to avoid cutting on a frame which shares fields from the 24fps original.

    You do this viewing with view>timecode overlays>timecode/kencode/ink number.

    It might be easier to edit your 24 fps original in 24 (or 23.98) by using the reverse telecine features, which are pretty well explained in the Cinema Tools manual.

  • Richard Boddington

    November 16, 2006 at 5:51 pm

    Yeah, I was told I can’t do reverse tele cine with Cinema Tools when the downconverts are on DVCAM???

    Ok I have the time code overlays up on my preview window, thanks. But I’m not sure about the second part?

    How/where do I access this part once the overlays are on?:

    timecode/kencode/ink number

    I have TC in at the top left and TC out at the top right, in the centre is TC for Video and Audio. When I move the playhead in the window I get standard 30(29.97) fps code in the frames,

    How do I use this to ID a pulldown frame?

    Thanks
    Richard

    I’ll[Steven Gonzales] “I just received my cross grade, and I looked through the new features, and the manual, and I don’t see anything about film safe.

    You are able to display film properties in the canvas and viewer. Perhaps that will allow you, while editing at 29.97, to avoid cutting on a frame which shares fields from the 24fps original.

    You do this viewing with view>timecode overlays>timecode/kencode/ink number.

    It might be easier to edit your 24 fps original in 24 (or 23.98) by using the reverse telecine features, which are pretty well explained in the Cinema Tools manual.

  • Steven Gonzales

    November 16, 2006 at 5:59 pm

    Why can’t you do reverse telecine on DVCAM files? I’ve never heard that.

    Perhaps the person was confusing Final Cut’s pulldown removal (for camera’s such as Panasonic DVX100) with Cinema Tools’ reverse telecine. Read “Adding and Removing Pull-Down in 24P Clips” in the final cut pro user’s manual.

    What version of Final Cut do you have? Of course, turning on any film information in the timecode overlay will only do something if that information is in your project.

    The user manuals are suprisingly clear of this subject, especially Cinema Tools manual.

  • Sean Oneil

    November 16, 2006 at 9:41 pm

    I’m the one who told him this and it was a mistake. A previous version of CT had a bug where if the Quicktime format was DV, it would automatically assume it had to be 3:2:2:3 advanced pulldown and not let you do a regular inverse 3:2. They have since fixed this but with version 3.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 17, 2006 at 4:16 am

    Are there any tc numbers on the DVcam dubs themself (like a window burn)?

    You can use CT to do a rev telecine, or you can use capture hardware to remove pulldown o the fly as well.

    Jeremy

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