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Using Cine Tools On Older Version Of FCP For 35mm?
Hi,
I have just completed a feature film shot on 35mm and transfered to HDSR. Now I wish to edit the movie and create an EDL for auto assembly at the post house, which will be a HDSR deck to HDSR deck edit.
I know the FCP 5 bundle comes with cinema tools, which I need in order to edit a true 24 fps project. I will be working with DVCAM downconverts of each HDSR reel with matching code. So I’m off-lining in DV.
My problem is that FCP 5 comes with a whole whack load of stuff I’ll never use, plus I’ll have to upgrade my G4 466 to a G5.
Before I go ahead and spend the money on that, I was wondering if there is an older version of FCP (vrs 1 or 2) that ran on OS9 and came with Cine Tools? If not any one know where I can obtain Cine Tools for an older version of FCP?
I’m just editing in standard def DV mode and it seems that FCP 5 and a G5 is over kill. All I need to do is build an EDL, I’m not finishing in FCP, the audio will be mixed at a post house.
I’ve run FCP on my G4 before editing DV and it worked just fine with OS9.
Any info much appreciated.
Thanks
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Final Cut 4 was the first version that came bundled with Cinema Tools. This was about spring of 2003 (which is about 2 years after your G4 466 was an obsolete product). This version required at least 350MHZ, and OS 10.2.5.
There seem to be a lot of films that spend and accept low shooting ratios to get 35mm, then find there is nothing in the budget for post picture and sound.
Good luck in your quest for old software.
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So was Cinema Tools available as a separate program for FCP 2?
R,
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I would just go ahead and work in the current version of CT. It’s got improved features including tight integration with FCP. In fact, film info is not available in FCP prior to FCP 5.
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Cinema Tools 1.0 was a separate program. It succeeded Film Logic when Apple bought the company.
The requirements for the stand alone Cinema Tools 1.0 were 300MHz or faster Power PC G3 or G4, 25MB ram, Final Cut Pro 3.0.2 or later, Mac OS x 10.1.3, qt 5.0.4.
If you really want to go way back, you could try to find Film Logic, which ran on OS 9 with system 7.5 or higher.
Why don’t you edit in whatever version you have of Final Cut at 29.97, with footage that has burned in time code from the HD. Then when you’re done, find someone with Cinema Tools (current) and create 29.97 EDLs in Final Cut, then convert them to 24 fps EDLs with Cinema Tools, and use that to online HD after checking the cut against the new EDL manually.
Basically, if you don’t have the right tools, you can make up for that by doing a lot of manual work, but only if you absolutely know what you’re doing. Of course, at a certain level of work, no one would ever do that because their time is too valuable to take such chances.
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Thanks, yes it has been suggested to me to make a 29.97 EDL and then “convert” it to 23.98, load it into the edit computer and assemble. Checking each edit as we go.
I’m going to run a short test using this method. If it works fine, if not then I’ll have to upgrade to FCP 5 and a new Pro Mac. Or rent time on an Avid that has been set up to handle projects like this.
Richard
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