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  • Upgrading RAM size

    Posted by Actxiom on December 28, 2005 at 9:00 pm

    I have been fighting skips and out of sync video/audio using Pinnacle Studio 9. Recently I decided to try Vegas Movie Studio + DVD because my 256 mg RAM computer and 2.26 Ghz processor looked to be more compatible with Vegas than Pinnacle.

    I will probably upgrade to 512 RAM but when discussing this on a Pinnacle message board one member said that the upgrade would not improve the quality or eliminate the skips or out of sync problems.

    If that is right then my question is what will eliminate the skips and sync problems. I have been alternating between burning to DVD-R and DVD+R. Would the incompatibility of formats and DVD players be showing up here.

    At one techs advice the DVD-R format should be the most universal.

    More logical I expect would be to look at my computer’s video and audio cards.

    Any advice anyone?

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    Actxiom replied 20 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Edward Troxel

    December 28, 2005 at 9:53 pm

    [Actxiom] “I have been fighting skips and out of sync video/audio”

    On the timeline? During Previews? Outputting to tape? Once you get to the DVD? WHERE???

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Actxiom

    December 28, 2005 at 10:57 pm

    Thanks for the reply, Ed. Sorry I was not more specific. The skips and out of sync conditions I mentioned occur sporadically on DVDs I create. These occur on DVDs played on some DVD players and not on others. In my home I can play my project burned to both DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs on a new Philips Portable player just fine and then I can go to my main TV with an older Panasonic player and both formats will skip.

    I need to produce these DVDs to be playable on as many people older machines as possible and so I am trying to decide what format and what else I need to do to improve the quality for the masses. My thought was that at least going to 512 meg of RAM might help as by one of the GEEK squad at Best Buy suggested. Another expert on Pinnacles message board said the opposite. Just increasing RAM was not necessarily going to improve the quality.

    So that is my confusion. My guess is that improving RAM, upgrading the video card, and making sure I have all the latest Microsoft upgrades to my Windows XP SP2 will be the most logical moves I can make. Also, of course, I think that moving to Vegas will also be a big help because frankly Pinnacle has been 10 months of torture.

    Dave

    Creativity is the ultimate passion

  • Actxiom

    December 28, 2005 at 11:27 pm

    I still did not fully answer your question Ed. Let me try again. The skipping occurs at certain points in the movie consistantly.

    At first I thought it had something to do with the sensitivity of my new Pioneer DVR-A08 DVD/CD recorder – like the amplification of some strong wind sounds was causing the jumping. But there were other areas which were out of sync and had no associated volume spikes. So I ruled out that theory.

    I went back and eliminated some of the clips that seemed to exhibit the problem thinking my New Sony miniHandy cam might also be causing the problem. Either the battery was low, possibly, or the pickup device might have been dirty. I did eliminate one problem area by starting over and rerecording that section. It could be, now that I think more about it, that my SONY DVR-HC21 is the possible culprit.

    But then why do I have no problem when viewing these DVDs on my new Philips Portable DVD machine?

    Got my retired brain in a real stew. I just hate to send out a product and have half of them returned.

    Dave

    Creativity is the ultimate passion

  • Edward Troxel

    December 29, 2005 at 1:35 am

    How are you rendering the MPEG2 file? What bitrate are you using? What format audio are you using (pcm or ac3)?

    Sounds like it might be possible that your bitrate is too high causing some players to stutter.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Steve

    December 29, 2005 at 4:12 am

    Some things to consider when creating DVD’s are that you don’t have the bitrate too high for the video. 8k would be as high as you should go using VBR and if your audio is PCM, even lower for the peak setting.
    Some older DVD players have a hard time reading burnt DVD’s and if the bitrate is to high it can cause sync problems.
    I’ve also seen the overuse of motion graphics in menus to cause problems with playback on some players.
    Good Luck
    Steve

  • Gary Kleiner

    December 29, 2005 at 6:05 am

    [SteveT] “I’ve also seen the overuse of motion graphics in menus to cause problems with playback on some players.”

    Thats’ strange since the menu page exists as a on-piece rendered piece of video.

    Gary Kleiner

    Vegas Training and Tools.com

    Learn Vegas and DVD Architect

    http://www.VegasTrainingAndTools.com

  • Mdg_nl

    December 29, 2005 at 2:21 pm

    Dave,

    Are you having problems with DVD burning in Vegas too, or are you refering to problems in Studio 9.

    Pinnacle studio is (in the Netherlands at least) famous for its strange behaviour in respect to synchronisation on DVD’s. I also was a Pin-fighter for 3 years. Since I’m using Vegas I am only concentrating on the video contents instead of “work around” the Pinnacle habbits. Sometimes it is even a bit boaring to use Vegas due to the lack of issues….

  • Actxiom

    December 29, 2005 at 6:29 pm

    Thanks to all of you for your responses – MdG_NL, Gary Kleiner, SteveT, and jeditdv.
    Bit rate is one of the issues that I am most unfamiliar with, so I will study up on that.
    Glad to hear that there is some confirmation re:Pinnacle’s synchronization problems. Perhaps their new bosses at AVID will straighten things out. That one comment helps me justify switching.

    Happy New Year everyone. I am away to study up more. Am doing upland bird hunting and how-to-train bird-dog films. It is real hard to get a steady shot in the field. Also very hard to anticipate the bird being flushed and in flight.

    Dave

    Creativity is the ultimate passion

  • Actxiom

    December 30, 2005 at 8:19 pm

    Just Pinnacle. I haven’t gotten started in Vegas only to upload one video event.

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