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  • Shane Ross

    June 30, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    [Nicholas Natteau] “If that’s the case, do I then need to copy and paste my finished 720p29.97 timelines into a 720p59.94 nested master sequence for final delivery? “

    Can you tell us what format your final deliver needs to be? You need to know what that is, and then go backwards to figure out what do to to meet that goal.

    Shane

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  • Matt Campbell

    July 15, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    HolyCOW that was long. But a good read. And easy to understand. I got a question related to this subject. I am about get a finished 12 min. documentary from one of our post facilities. They are sending me a ProRes 720p29.97 file. I have a bunch of DV tapes that were shot at 480i30p. I’ve captured those tapes and edited in a DV NTSC Anamorphic timeline and simply changing the Field Dominance to NONE to accomodate the 30p aspect of it (not 60i).

    So, if I’m getting in a 720p29.97 ProRes file from our vendor and need to tack our piece on the end of it, should I upConvert my DV material via Compressor to ProRes 720p29.97? Note, all I have is an BM Intensity Card, no DV deck, only the HVX camera. So I use Compressor via upConverting on ingest. This way when their material gets here I can drop it into a new 29.97 timeline, hit yes to change sequence settings to match clip, then import my new upConverted material and edit that onto the end of theirs normally. DV source material upConverted to match incoming files. Does this sound right? I understand the whole 720p59.94 (59.94 for broadcast) thing but if 29.97 is whats coming to me, shouldn’t I conform to fit that?

    I normally shoot 720p30PN with our HVX 200 and edit in a 29.97 timeline. Never had issues with that.

    This is not for broadcast, only for web, DVD and possibly private showings (but that will be DVD most likely). Once we’re done, I’ll post the link so show the work.

    OS 10.6.3, Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 16 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 15, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    [Matt Campbell] “So, if I’m getting in a 720p29.97 ProRes file from our vendor and need to tack our piece on the end of it, should I upConvert my DV material via Compressor to ProRes 720p29.97?”

    Yes, you should. When in Compressor, make sure that compressor is reading your dv file as progressive. You do this by clicking on the thumbnail to being up the a/v attributes of the clip once you have added it to a job. Sometimes, Compressor will assume wrong, or if the metadata flag sin’t marked correctly from FCP (not your fault). 720p29.97 ProRes is the way to go. The other thing to do is to down convert their HD movie. Which is longer, your stuff or their stuff?

    Jeremy

  • Matt Campbell

    July 15, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Thanks man. I thought so. And yes, Compressor did recognize it properly as Progressive. I think it did because I copied the finished DV edit and pasted it into a new sequence using ProRes 720×480 anamorphic, 29.97 with dom. set to NONE, then rendered it and exported using compressor.

    If I remember correctly from another response you had to one of my questions, that ProRes maintains the progressive setting. Whereas if I exported as DV or even Ucompressed, even though I’ve edited prog, it would show up as Interlaced. ProRes maintains that metadata.

    It worked and looks pretty decent. thx.

    OS 10.6.3, Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 16 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 15, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    [Matt Campbell] “It worked and looks pretty decent. thx. “

    No worries. If i were you I would have just upconverted the dv movie. No reason to go through another transcode to SD ProRes. Make sure the frame controls are on in Compressor, resize to best.

    Jeremy

  • Matt Campbell

    July 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Word. Thanks. Frame controls are on and good to go.

    Senrio for ya, If I were to keep the DV sequence and export using Compressor, lets just say that the A/V tab reads its as interlaced (even though I just tried it and it read it as prog properly), is ok to just change it to progressive in that A/V tab? Or should I control that using the frame controls, set the Output fields to Prog and Deinterlace to best. I guess that would be deinterlacing a prog. clip though. Probably not good.

    OS 10.6.3, Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 16 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 15, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    [Matt Campbell] ” is ok to just change it to progressive in that A/V tab?”

    Yes. As your movie is progressive it is A-OK. After all, it is metadata, but Compressor will use that metadata setting as it starts to compress the movie. The DV codec has the field dom metadata flag as well, similar to ProRes.

    [Matt Campbell] “Or should I control that using the frame controls, set the Output fields to Prog and Deinterlace to best. I guess that would be deinterlacing a prog. clip though. Probably not good. “

    Exactly right. If your movie really is progressive and Compressor is “interpreting” is as field rendered, Compressor will use the field rendered setting, even though it’s not. Hope that makes sense, but you have it all exactly right. Nice work!

    Jeremy

  • Matt Campbell

    July 15, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    thx man. appreciate the help.

    OS 10.6.3, Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 16 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

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