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Understanding Prores rendering within XDCAM sequences
Happy New Year Everyone,
If I’m working with XDCAM EX footage, I understand that it’s a good idea to set the sequence setting to render with prores 422. I get the low datarate of xdcam and the better quality of prores for the rendered parts (transitions, etc.). My question is, what happens when I output the final master? I typically just export at current settings – which in this case is xdcam – doesn’t this mean that it is all simply rerendered to xdcam anyway (negating the advantage of pro res)? Would the best thing be to ouput the XDCAM sequence as Prores?I’ve recently started using Magic Bullet Looks (which I LOVE) but basically takes forever to render, and means that more and more of my shots require rendering.
Thanks!
BobMac Pro 2.66 – 8GB memory – Mac OS 10.5.2 – Quicktime 7.4.5 –
Mac Book Pro 2.33 Duo –
FC Studio 2 (Final Cut 6.0.3) – Kona Lhe
Adobe Production Suite CS3 –
Sony Multiformat 14″ – Panasonic 42″ Plasma –
Ikegami HLDV7 – PVW EX-1 -
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Anytime you change the compressor in seq. settings you change the file that type that will be exported when using current settings to that codec. So, if you change the compressor to ProRes, te file you export at current settings will be ProRes.
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Hi Bob and David,
I hope you have had a nice holidays and you didn’t get too fat.
Bob is talking about the option of editing EX-1 in an EX-1 sequence but rendering to ProRess.
This option is great but in the end is no much useful. When you export you do it to EX-1, so all the Proress renders are for nothing. If you change the sequence to Proress you will also lose the link to the render files.
You could try to recover the render files and bring them to a proRess sequence, but in the end would be a complication. So the best is just to set ProRess as the sequence codec from the beginning. Because you don’t want your beautiful pictures with MB Looks on top to be crunched back to EX-1. Don’t you?
Cheers,
Rafael -
[Rafael Amador] “This option is great but in the end is no much useful … the best is just to set ProRess as the sequence codec from the beginning”
Ack, Rafael its not like you to come up with such “my way or the highway” conclusions.
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Dear Andy,
After wishing you the best for this 2009, I have to recognize that in my “Laoliness” some times I may arrive to too-fast conclusions.
My my working environment is so limited (EX-1/DV to DVD/Web/BetacamSP) that some times I may not catch other people needs.
Customization is the word. Today FC allows great flexibility for working and you can reach the same point through different paths. Every project is different.
Cheers
Rafael -
I suppose if you’re mastering out to tape, setting the rendering to prores makes sense. If your master is an exported QT file, maybe not so much (though I guess it doesn’t hurt). I was going to test to see if there’s any speed advantage to using prores. Thanks for your help!
BobMac Pro 2.66 – 8GB memory – Mac OS 10.5.2 – Quicktime 7.4.5 –
Mac Book Pro 2.33 Duo –
FC Studio 2 (Final Cut 6.0.3) – Kona Lhe
Adobe Production Suite CS3 –
Sony Multiformat 14″ – Panasonic 42″ Plasma –
Ikegami HLDV7 – PVW EX-1 -
[Bob Pierce] “I suppose if you’re mastering out to tape, setting the rendering to prores makes sense. If your master is an exported QT file, maybe not so much”
Is not just a matter of your delivery format, or having more RT, is also a matter of rendering and exporting in 10b.
To make the final rendering of all my video, I et FC to render with the most exigent setting and in 10b. Even for videos that will go to a website or a DVD.
Whenever you render try to do it to a better codec.
Render back to any XDCAM flavor I can only understand it if you have to go back to a SxS card or XDCAM disk.
Cheers,
Rafael
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