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Uncompressed Project Settings
Posted by Christopher Pavsek on August 16, 2005 at 7:18 pmI’m going to move a project from DV to uncompressed to lay off to tape on a machine with Decklink.
I am going to set up the project ahead of time (to save time, money) and take the whole thing with me on a firewire drive.
Can I simply use “Uncompressed 10 Bit 48khz” and then open this up on the machine with decklink? or are their proprietary settings specifically for decklink that I should know about?
Thanks.
Jonathan White replied 20 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies -
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Alexander Serpico
August 16, 2005 at 7:29 pmWhat are you trying to accomplish? Do you mean you are re-digitizing your footage Uncompressed?
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Alexander Serpico
August 16, 2005 at 7:35 pmalso it is also your best bet to have a raided firewire 800 drive if you are going to work uncompressed.
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Walter Biscardi
August 16, 2005 at 7:37 pmIf Decklink works like the Kona 2, you don’t need to do this. It will play out via SDI straight off a DV timeline.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Christopher Pavsek
August 16, 2005 at 8:09 pmI will recapture the little bit of footage that there is uncompressed.
My project has lots of stills and lots ( i mean LOTS) of titles so i don’t want to play a dv timeline out uncompressed because the dv codec looks bad with titles. or am i wrong to assume that if i played a dv timeline out uncompressed that the dv codec would still be involved soemwhere in the pipeline? I assume it would be if the sequence settings were dv, no?
Re: a RAID: the facility will have the necessary hard drives. i’m just schlepping a big firewire drive with the project on it and loading it onto their machine.
So, still there is the question: is a plain-old 10bit uncompressed setting fine?
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Chris Poisson
August 16, 2005 at 10:08 pmChristopher,
If you’re saying you’re gonna put all your media on their drives, then on their machine you’d have all the DeckLink codecs and whatnot, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
I do a lot of DV based work with lots of text and graphics, and I often change my compressor to 8 or 10 bit at the end, render it and export an uncompressed QT for DVD authoring. Works great.
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Hal Beery
August 16, 2005 at 11:36 pmChris,
I’m on the verge of going uncompressed for the reasons you’ve noted here, yet I know very little about what it takes, hardware, etc. Is it a matter of getting a kona card and a huge or similar raid drive? can fw800 be used if i’m just doing dvcam masters and dvd’s?
tnx
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Chris Poisson
August 16, 2005 at 11:55 pmHal,
DeckLink SP has been very good for me, and I have a Huge System SCSI media vaule, but since I mostly work in 8 bit I also have a Promax FireMax 2-drive RAID which handles 8bit just fine. Actually, I now use the Promax as my primary drive and the Huge vault for backup. When I went to Tiger I had some problems with the Huge drive, so I decided to use the Promax as my primary scratch disk because it is so solid, and didn’t seem to notice the change to Tiger. Plus it just flat out performs.
BTW the Kona2 is on my list of new toys, primarily because of their uprez capabilities, but since Graeme Nattress is working on a standalone uprez app, I think I might wait a bit.
So yes, FW 800 RAIDS like a Big Disk Extreme or G-Raid are more than adequate, but some of the SATA arrays would give you more throughput and insurance against dropping frames on more complex projects, or if you want to move into HD. Promax has some great solutions.
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Walter Biscardi
August 17, 2005 at 2:17 am[Chris Poisson] “BTW the Kona2 is on my list of new toys, primarily because of their uprez capabilities, but since Graeme Nattress is working on a standalone uprez app, I think I might wait a bit.”
The one big plus on the Kona 2 is that the up-convert and down-convert are both real-time through the card. Hook up your SD device via SDI and tell the Kona 2 to upconvert the signal to 720 or 1080i.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Jonathan White
August 17, 2005 at 9:04 amMaybe you can help (I posted about this below). When I drop my PAL DV timeline into an uncompressed 10bit one I get strobey looking output (think it’s a field issue???) any ideas?
Thanks
Johnny White
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