ultimately landing at 29.97, but client wants 24frame “film look”

[Shane Ross]

There should be a 24p setting for DVCPRO 50 that has the film look, but runs at 29.97. Just like 24p on the DVX-100a. Not 24PA, just regular old 24p at 29.97. I wouldn’t shoot 24PN DVCPRO HD just to end up 29.97 Standard Def.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Mark Maness]

[WaterBoy] “the project will be shot using an HVX-200, so the possible codecs are many. here’s what i’m thinking as the workflow:

>aquire on 720/24p
>use FCP to convert to 720/30 and a downconvert DVCPro50/30

or should i just stay in the 30 frame world for the whole shoot?”

Ok… Let me ask. What capture card do you have?

If you have the new Kona 3, I’d work totally in DVCPRO HD 24p and then downconvert via the capture card to your tape machine.

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Wayne Carey
Schazam Productions
http://www.schazamproductions.com

[Trevor Ward]

Let me say this: if your customer wants the film “look”, the fps don’t make much of a difference. First, use camera settings that give the film “look”. Use cinegamma and whatnot. Next, use a higher or slower shutter speed than 1/60. Saving private ryan look can be had with camera settings and high shutter speed. Lastly, use color grading filters that give the look created by professionals. I’ve fooled many a person using these techniques without having to use 24p.

-trevor ward
orlando, fl

[Trevor Ward]

Let me add one more thing. If you’re not going to PAL, then you can shoot 30fps progressive. The progressive images are prettier and will help you achieve that film look.

-trevor ward
orlando, fl

[E. Eric johnson iii]

shane & trevor-

first of all thank you for your expertise and advice.

since it’s NTSC, i’m going to encourage the client to stick with the 30p world and use shutter speeds and scene settings to acheive the look he wants. BTW, i have a kona2 card so on the fly downconversion is possible; however, delivery is straight to hard disk.

there will be some AE work done on the project as well, and i was thinking of using the DVCProHD codec so they could start off with the best image possible. i.e., let them do what they will – but they start off with a thing of beauty.

is there any merit to this thinking?

thank you again,

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e. eric johnson iii
eric@lillmonster.net
lill monster founder/producer-director
water channel: producer/virtual set operator
HomeandGardenCreative.com: producer/editor

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[Jeremy Garchow]

If i were you, I’d shoot 24p and not 30p. Your Kona will handle the real time downconvert from whatever frame rate you give it. Test which one you like, but if they want the film look (and I’m talking frame rate, not color) I’d shoot 24p.

Jeremy