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TV (Follow Up)
Posted by Franz Bieberkopf on June 28, 2012 at 2:05 pmRelevant arstechnica posting on 4K TV.
Joseph W. bourke replied 13 years, 10 months ago 12 Members · 26 Replies -
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Rafael Amador
June 28, 2012 at 4:12 pmOne of the reason for the success of iPods/pads/phones and other gadgets is that people can show them everywhere to let others to see how smart they are. TVs are a bit more difficult to show around.
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Andrew Kimery
June 28, 2012 at 5:15 pmI predict that 4k will become the norm because manufactures will simply stop making HDTVs (just like they stopped making SDTVs to speed up HDTV adoption). That’s not going to be for a while now because of manufacturing costs, but it’ll happen. And people will watch HD content on their 4k sets and rave about awesome 4k is! 🙂 4k is also an easier sell then 3D because it lacks the problems 3D introduces.
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Bill Davis
June 28, 2012 at 5:23 pm[Rafael Amador] “One of the reason for the success of iPods/pads/phones and other gadgets is that people can show them everywhere to let others to see how smart they are. TVs are a bit more difficult to show around.
rafael
“Rafael,
A very minor one at best.
If this were a significant reason, then as soon as someone’s circle of friends all “knew” you have the device, mission accomplished – and it would start to lose it’s power.
The alternate view is that these devices are actually just really satisfying for their users.
As a class, they are is a superb “personal connection device” in a world where constant connection can really improve ones life – provided your life is structured in such a way that constant connection is useful to you.
Trends in human behavior follow paths of self-benefit. And while everyone certainly has an ego and iDevices at some level appeal to that – to single this fact out as the one worth focusing on is to misunderstand some huge shifts in society taking place.
This is the information era. Access to more information, faster, is a competitive advantage in many, many situations. Smart devices enable precisely that.
And Apple’s smart devices – along with the ecosystem that supports them – are currently the most developed expression of that.
An initial iPad or iPhone or Blackberry purchase might initially be someone’s “ego” talking – but the wild success of the entire connected ecosystem – apps stores, cloud storage, news feeds, shopping, credit card processing, education, entertainment, etc, etc, etc… is the whole brain talking, IMO.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Bill Davis
June 28, 2012 at 5:30 pm[Andrew Kimery] “And people will watch HD content on their 4k sets and rave about awesome 4k is! 🙂 4k is also an easier sell then 3D because it lacks the problems 3D introduces.”
To shoehorn the discussion into movies and similar entertainment content, I think misses the point.
As someone who’s been making video content for a few decades, I’m not actually as interested in a sharper view of Jessica Biel or Matt Damon – I’m interested in the viewers ability to call up information and see it clearly.
The higher the screen resolution, the better it can display text information and fine detail when that information is beneficial.
Anyone who’s ever tried to do disclaimer type on a TV spot knows that one massive failure of the SD TV industry was it’s abysmal ability to transmit and display dense text when necessary.
If we’re to ever get a home display screen environment that can show a Cop show one minute, and a real estate survey plot the next – the tech has to change.
Right now that calls for 2 devices. A TV to watch the cop show – and a computer to enable the display of something like a line drawing.
That’s just dumb in the modern, connected era.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Andrew Kimery
June 28, 2012 at 6:20 pm[Bill Davis] “To shoehorn the discussion into movies and similar entertainment content, I think misses the point.”
How did I shoehorn the discussion by making a tongue-in-cheek observation and how does my saying that TV set makers are continuously looking for the ‘next big thing’ to keep sales from stagnating or declining miss the point?
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Joseph W. bourke
June 28, 2012 at 7:30 pmHi Bill –
I take issue with “constant connection improves ones life”. I firmly believe that constant connection on faceless, voiceless (for the most part – I know very few people under 30 who do more than text on their phones) devices is what’s killing this world.
You’ve got generations of people who are constantly in contact, sending funny cat videos and jokes they didn’t even write themselves, to people who are so bored and lonely that they actually think that this faux communication constitutes “connection”.
Here’s a link to a very interesting (albeit long) article from the Atlantic which explores just what I’m talking about:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/05/is-facebook-making-us-lonely/8930/#
Joe Bourke
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Joseph Owens
June 28, 2012 at 7:32 pm[Andrew Kimery] “I predict that 4k will become the norm”
Pardon my ignorance, but is this full 4,000 x whatever RGB in all sensors, or is this that fake 4K Bayer pattern which if you aren’t doing a lot of interpolation is really 2K?
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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Kevin Patrick
June 28, 2012 at 9:45 pmBill,
I clicked on your link. But I didn’t see any cat videos.
I think the appropriate response would be:
🙁
Kevin
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Andrew Kimery
June 28, 2012 at 11:04 pm[Joseph Owens] “Pardon my ignorance, but is this full 4,000 x whatever RGB in all sensors, or is this that fake 4K Bayer pattern which if you aren’t doing a lot of interpolation is really 2K?”
At first no, but then yes and it will be marketed as ‘Full 4k’!
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Chris Harlan
June 28, 2012 at 11:07 pm[Kevin Patrick] “Bill,
I clicked on your link. But I didn’t see any cat videos.
I think the appropriate response would be:
🙁
“I too was disheartened not to see either kitty videos or a honey badger. I shall remedy that now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
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