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  • John Rofrano

    January 6, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    > I went into Vegas Fx and simply clicked on Broadcast colors. The default box was already checked for me for the setting of 7.5. Is that all there is to it for this clip? Is it now broadcast safe?

    No, you didn’t select a preset so it is essentially off. What you have now will allow whites up to 110 and blacks down to -8. (very unsafe) You need to select one of the preset settings. If there are no values out of range you will not see any change in the preview. It only clamps down on values outside the limits.

    > I did not see an icon or any thing that I could identify as the master video bus (above the preview window as you mentioned)… What am I missing… hmm…

    It’s above the Video Preview and if you hover your mouse it says Video Output FX…:

    > Thanks and it would be fantastic if all I had to do was go into FX and keep setting for Broadcast colors for each clip. Can it be this easy to prepare my footage for Broadcast safe colors?

    No need to do them one at a time. just place it on the master video bus output.

    ~jr

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    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Kimball

    January 7, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Hi John:

    Okay I went in and chose a setting. I chose the setting Lenient 7.5 setup. Since I dont know what to look for I simply had a quick look at the horizonatal adjustment bars for the settings but didnt alter anything. What should I pay attention to here? What about the
    Composite Min value of -20. I am not sure what to look for if I am doing something illegal color wise. Because I went in and selected Lenient 7.5 setup value does this mean my project is now okay? Also does this reflect the values for this clip only or for the whole project on my timeline?

    Thanks and I am sure is obvious this is new technilogical territory for me. Please see the attached screenie, and of course how do I properly thank you guys for your valuable time? Much appreciated!

    Don

    http://www.polytelismedia.wordpress.com

  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2010 at 3:11 am

    > Since I dont know what to look for I simply had a quick look at the horizonatal adjustment bars for the settings but didnt alter anything. What should I pay attention to here?

    Just use the stand presets and don’t worry about anything else. If you place it on the video output it will affect the entire video. If you want to see the effect that it has, use the Waveform Monitor in the Video Scopes to see where the values lie with it on and off.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Kimball

    January 7, 2010 at 8:15 am

    Hi John:

    This so far is an enigma to me. I will explain using screen shots as I think Mike here said a picture is worth 1000 words. First to make sure I was actually activating the correct button in Track FX Output I decided to apply the FX using the setting levels. For this experiment I chose gamma level to be absolutely dreadful to see if it would affect all of my events in the timeline.

    To reassure myself that not just one but all of the events were afforded the same dreadful gamma level I took a look at some other events


    And I was definitely reassured by the other awful looking events that once I clicked the FX and set it in the master Output FX button it affects everything.

    Now to apply the Broadcast colors correcting tool and use the setting Lenient 7.5

    Okay looks good… I dont see any difference in anything but I am thinking maybe its a miracle but perhaps all of my events are broadcast safe!

    I then simply without deselcting or X ing out the Broadcast Colors FX setting dropped the display box back into the timeline. When I did the same thing to the Levels/gamma setting, at any point I could click on the Track FX icon and see that yes indeed my gamma setting was still holding (as awful as it was)

    I tried that with the Broadcast Colors FX and as you can see it has now reverted back to the Preset called “Untitled” without my doing anything. Where is my setting Lenient 7.5 ?…. maddening.

    Now obviously there is a save option here. So thinking that was the problem I created a new Preset called Lenient 7.5 Setup1. Even that is not retained at all. Things simply go back to the default setting Untitled. I am obviously missing some command that says save and hold my preset. Or.. I have a defective copy of Sony Vegas Pro. Mystified…

    Thanks for your imput

    Don

    http://www.polytelismedia.wordpress.com

  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2010 at 11:10 am

    > I tried that with the Broadcast Colors FX and as you can see it has now reverted back to the Preset called “Untitled” without my doing anything. Where is my setting Lenient 7.5 ?…. maddening.

    This is definitely one of the strange behaviors of Vegas but even though it says “Untitled” it is still using your Lenient preset. Just look at the sliders to confirm. It will always revert back to “Untitled” once you close the box. Personally, I consider this a bug but Sony does not.

    If you want to see what Broadcast Safe is doing you need to use the Waveform Monitor in the Video Scopes. Your eye is not sensitive enough to detect what’s going on except in certain extreme circumstances where you have a lot of details above 100 and you see the details get flattened.

    Place your Australia logo on the timeline, open the Waveform Monitor and see that the whites are way over 100. then add the Broadcast Safe filter and watch the waveform clamp down to 100.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Kimball

    January 11, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Thanks John:

    Does this mean if I use the broadcast safe setting that inserted photos from photoshop will also be broadcast safe? Or do I have to treat inserted images individually and separately? I was thinking about my Australian maps which have a great deal of white in them.

    thanks again for your help here!

    Don

    http://www.polytelismedia.wordpress.com

  • John Rofrano

    January 11, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Don, If you add the Broadcast Safe plug-in to the master video bus (i.e, Video Output FX above the Preview Window) everything in the project will be clamped down to broadcast safe levels including the still images from Photoshop. That’s the easiest way to handle it.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Don Kimball

    January 11, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Thanks John:

    Will the quality of my footage decrease with the “clamping down” of the broadcast color safe mode? Thanks

    Don

    http://www.polytelismedia.wordpress.com

  • Don Kimball

    January 11, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Hi John:

    I was studying the waveform monitor for video safe colors while a short clip was playing. I was noticing that the video did not indicate that it was outside of the target range as far as colors were concerned.

    My question is this one: As long as the indicator shows that my colors didnt go outside of the target (for lack of better words) does that mean that things are safe? Please refer to screen print..

    Thanks very much

    Don

    http://www.polytelismedia.wordpress.com

  • John Rofrano

    January 12, 2010 at 12:29 am

    If you have important information in the shot that is above the broadcast safe levels it will be lost. In that case you should reduce your overall levels. Otherwise adding the broadcast safe filter will affect nothing that is legal (i.e., your quality will be the same).

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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