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  • Trying to Render 720×486, but it won’t work.

    Posted by Jason Moore on November 10, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    I’m sure this is something that is just part of CS5, but I can’t figure out how to work around it.

    I’ve mostly been working in HD here lately, but I had a D1 NTSC project to work on this past week, and every time I render a 720×486 comp it comes out 654×486. I’ve tried forcing it to render at 720×486 through the resize option, but that too is giving me a 654×486 file after rendering.

    I’ve searched around for a solution, but haven’t come up with anything.

    Right now I’m using Quicktime Pro to resize it after it renders.

    Anyone know if there’s a way to force After Effects to render at 720×486 again?

    Thanks,
    Jason Moore

    Douglas Ryan replied 15 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • John Cuevas

    November 10, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    I can assure you that AE CS5 does render out to 720 x 486.

    Pretty sure what’s happening is you have are trying to work with SD at a 4×3 ratio, but you’ve inadverntly set the pixel aspect ratio to square. Change it to .91 and you should be good to go.

    Johnny Cuevas, Editor

  • Jason Moore

    November 10, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Hmmm…

    Well, the footage says it’s .91, and I created all of the comps by dragging the clip over the comp icon, so it should be using the same specs as the clip.

    I am checking the renders in Quicktime. It says:

    Format Animation, 720 x 486 (654 x 486) Millions

    Normal Size: 654 x 486
    Current Size 654 x 486 (Actual)

    I’ve never had this problem. All of my renders are coming out 654 x 486. I’ve been re-exporting using Quicktime to make them the correct size again.

    Jason Moore
    Midnight Oil Productions
    http://www.midnightoilproductions.com

  • Walter Soyka

    November 10, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    [Jason Moore] “Well, the footage says it’s .91, and I created all of the comps by dragging the clip over the comp icon, so it should be using the same specs as the clip.

    I am checking the renders in Quicktime. It says:

    Format Animation, 720 x 486 (654 x 486) Millions

    Normal Size: 654 x 486
    Current Size 654 x 486 (Actual)

    I’ve never had this problem. All of my renders are coming out 654 x 486. I’ve been re-exporting using Quicktime to make them the correct size again.”

    Quicktime Player is lying to you.

    Actually, Quicktime Player is converting from rectangular (video) pixels to square (computer) pixels on-the-fly, to ensure that your video looks proportionally correct on-screen.

    If you re-import your footage into After Effects, or bring it into a compression application, you’ll see that it is truly 720×486 with a 0.91 PAR. No need to adjust in QT.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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  • Jason Moore

    November 10, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    You’re right. Quicktime is lying. When I bring it back into AE it shows as 720×486.

    I wonder why QT is lying to me all of a sudden. Maybe some kind of upgrade I applied.

    The strange thing is that files I export from Quicktime appear the correct size when I reopen them in Quicktime.

    Thanks for your post.

    Jason

    Jason Moore
    Midnight Oil Productions
    http://www.midnightoilproductions.com

  • Walter Soyka

    November 10, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    If you’re running Macs, I highly recommend MediaInfo Mac for media file analysis/reporting. It’s more informative (and less misleading) than Quicktime’s Get Info.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Douglas Ryan

    April 12, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    I’ve got just the opposite problem. I was given two graphics by a client to import into an Avid Media Composer 5.0 project.

    My artists normally give me 720×486 out of AE and that works fine.

    One of the graphics the client gave me was 720×486 and it came into the Avid slightly anamorphic. The other was 654×486 and it was correct. They both look fine in QT.

    I’m assuming it’s a square vs non-square pixel setting in AE but I’ve never been super clear on what it should be.

    What should I tell my client to do differently? I have to be diplomatic in this approach.

    Any suggestions on what they/I should do differently?

    Thanks,

    Doug

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