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  • Trying to avoid a massive headache. Compression Problems

    Posted by Josh Williams on October 6, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Ok here is the problem. I have been using FCP7 to cut a multi camera shoot. Works great. Problem is FCP7 and OSX Lion don’t work well together and two plugins that I absolutely must have MB Colorista 2 and Neat Video Denoiser don’t hardly work at all in FCP7 running in Lion. So I switched to Premiere CS5.5 but PPro’s multi-cam editing is not very good so I have been cutting in FCP and then exporting the XML and bringing that into PPro to color correct and use Neat Video Denoiser (which works fine in PPro).

    The real problem is this. My exports, H.264 10mbs 1280×720 out of Media Encoder look like shit. I compared these to exports I did out of Compressor (which is much faster using all my cores than media encoder) using the same settings, and those look just fine.

    Am I doing something wrong in PPro or media encoder, or does it just not handle exporting to H.264 very well?

    Any help?

    Kevin Monahan replied 14 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    October 6, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    You’ll need to tell us all the settings you’re using in Media Encoder/Export Window including all the boxes you check, etc.

    The reason being is that Premiere exports h.264 with two different codecs; If it’s wrapped in MP4 it uses MainConcepts and if it’s wrapped in MOV it uses whatever the QuickTime engine uses (which I assume Compressor also uses).

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  • Josh Williams

    October 6, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Sorry. Ok so I’m exporting as a QuickTime using an h.264 codec. 1280×720, progressive, 10mbs,
    Maximum render unchecked
    Use previews checked.
    Not sure what else I can tell you. I’ll try to upload some screen grabs in a sec

  • Angelo Lorenzo

    October 6, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Are you checking the setting for manual keyframes and frame reordering?

    I usually have a better output if I force quicktime to place keyframes anywhere from 8-18 frames apart depending on the amount of action.

    Also frame reordering (which Compressor should have) allows the decoder to use b-frames from all over the file, rather than just b-frames within a GOP. Gives a better result but is more suitable for download rather than streaming content.

    Screenshots would be helpful though.

    – Angelo Lorenzo
    https://FilmsFor.Us Sell your film and connect with your audience

  • John-michael Seng-wheeler

    October 6, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Use .mp4 (pure H.264, not in a quicktime wrapper)

    Sometime between CS3 and CS5 .MOV H.264 rendering went south.

  • Kevin Monahan

    October 7, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    You can also try enabling Maximum Render Quality by checking the box at the bottom of the dialog. BTW, Media Encoder is multi-core aware, as it is a 64 bit application.

    Kevin Monahan
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