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  • Transcoding to AIC in Final Cut Pro

    Posted by Gurpinder Basra on April 22, 2011 at 4:52 am

    I usually transcode my footage from Sony NX5U to ProRes in Final Cut Pro. I shoot 1080/30p and transcode to the same ProRes equivalent.

    I have a friend I shot footage for and he asked me to give it to him in Log and Transfer, the only choices for AIC were:

    720p 1280 x 720 29.97 fps Progressive
    1080i 1440 x 1080 25 and 29.97 fps Interlaced
    1080p 1440 x 1080 23.98, 25, and 29.97 fps Progressive

    What’s the deal? Where is 1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps w/ Progressive at?

    David Roth weiss replied 15 years ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    April 22, 2011 at 7:12 am

    Apple Intermediate Codec is an OLD codec. And it is anamorphic at 1080i and 1080p…meaning not FULL raster 1920×1080, but rather 1440×1080. If they want AIC, then you need to give them it at 1440×1080.

    Shane

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  • Martin Curtis

    April 22, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    AIC is very limited. It was originally created to deal with HDV, for which high definition is 1440 x 1080 and it is flagged in the NLE to be anamorphic (i.e. non-square pixels) to it is “stretched” to 1920 x 1080.

    Apple’s info.

    As a codec it holds up OK for simple editing workflows, but, being 8-bit 4:2:0 colour, the professionals turn up their nose at it.

    Still if that’s what he wants/needs, then that’s what he’ll get.

  • Gurpinder Basra

    April 23, 2011 at 5:54 am

    Thanks to both of you for your responses.

    What is disturbing me is that iMovie ’09 allows me to transcode the AVCHD using it’s “full import” option. It’s disturbing because it sounds as though AIC doesn’t even support 1920×1080/30p format. I’ve done many projects using iMovie ’09 and output them at the aforementioned output thinking I was getting 1920×1080/30p format. It bugs me that iMovie ’09 has probably been stretching out the 1440×1080.

  • David Roth weiss

    April 23, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    [Gurpinder Basra] “It bugs me that iMovie ’09 has probably been stretching out the 1440×1080.”

    If you’ve done many projects and never noticed the difference then what’s the big deal?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

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  • Gurpinder Basra

    April 23, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    @ David – I understand the point your are making with your statement.

    However, I feel it is wrong on Apple’s part to mislead consumers. Let me give you a comparable situation. When shopping for diamonds, one cannot normally distinguish the difference in clarity, color (cut & carat should be easy to see). We rely on the appraisal and certification to be accurate. Apple’s ‘full import’ should live up to the same standard. Why does it matter? When I wrote contracts for some of my projects, I told my client that I record in 1920×1080 and provide the same in the final format.

  • David Roth weiss

    April 23, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    [Gurpinder Basra] “When I wrote contracts for some of my projects, I told my client that I record in 1920×1080 and provide the same in the final format.”

    And, unless you specified that you were delivering square pixels your contracts are just fine.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

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