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  • Transcoding and workflow questions

    Posted by Thomas Morter-laing on September 30, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Hi everyone,
    I have a question about the Elgato Turbo H264 HD hardware and a few other things (https://www.ilgs.co.uk/products.asp?partno=1TU108601001): is it worth it?

    When should I be using H264 other than for youtube and mobile devices?

    Why isn’t there a device of this price range which does similar things for ProRes and other codecs? (Im poor!)

    Speaking of Prores, is Red Giant’s Grinder a good (lossless?) piece of transcoder software?

    The reason for ‘workflow’ in the subject field is because the answers to these questions would effect my (simple) workflow which at the mo is pretty much capture from HDV 1080i 50 to Apple Prores 422, Editing in a prores timeline and then exporting as a qt file, then putting it through compressor (usually using the youtube setting cos most of my stuff ends up either on youtube, or as a web video or on a dvd which usually uses the standard presets again.

    How can this be better/fast and would the elgato device help/ anything else in that price range which is good?/(has anyone found a hdmi portable recorder which doesnt have the super functions of a nanoflash but is a LOT cheaper?).
    Cheers!

    😀
    Tom Morter-Laing
    Certified Apple Product Proffessional, 2010
    Degree; TV Production

    iMac 27″ intel i7 2.93GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI HD5750 [1GB GDDR5], 2TB Int. SATA with 2TB External HDD; (FW800).

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    September 30, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    [Thomas Morter-Laing] “When should I be using H264 other than for youtube and mobile devices?”
    Whenever you need good quality and small file size, and the picture is not to be reprocessed.

    [Thomas Morter-Laing] “Why isn’t there a device of this price range which does similar things for ProRes and other codecs? (Im poor!) “
    No that I know.

    [Thomas Morter-Laing] “Speaking of Prores, is Red Giant’s Grinder a good (lossless?) piece of transcoder software?”
    Why did you quoted “lossless”?
    I don’t use Grinder but I understand that the advantage is not in the transcoding (handled by QT) but in the way it can help with the workflow and media managing.
    I’m afraid Red Giant’s Grinder works only for DSRL footage (Canon).

    [Thomas Morter-Laing] “How can this be better/fast and would the elgato device help/ anything else in that price range which is good?/(has anyone found a hdmi portable recorder which doesnt have the super functions of a nanoflash but is a LOT cheaper?).
    Cheers!”

    Have a look to the Matrox and the Motu.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 30, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    I have an Elgato. It’s totally worth it on slower or less processor machines. I use it on my laptop.

    If you make h264 movies a lot, then it’s totally worth it.

    I wish there was a ProRes encoder just like the Elgato. It’d be very cool. I have asked for it many times!

  • Thomas Morter-laing

    September 30, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    I have an iMac i7 quad core 2.93ghz, 12gb ddr3 1333mhz ram, ATI Radeon HD 5750 1gb- would it make a significant difference still?

    😀
    Tom Morter-Laing
    Certified Apple Product Proffessional, 2010
    Degree; TV Production

    iMac 27″ intel i7 2.93GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI HD5750 [1GB GDDR5], 2TB Int. SATA with 2TB External HDD; (FW800).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 30, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    I honestly don’t know. It makes minced meat of h264s, that I do know.

    How many h264s do you make a day?

  • Thomas Morter-laing

    October 1, 2010 at 1:43 am

    I make about 1 or 2 a week…. sorry as well, I just realised the specs of my machine are in my signature :S Oh well, anyway, thanks for all your helps 🙂

    😀
    Tom Morter-Laing
    Certified Apple Product Proffessional, 2010
    Degree; TV Production

    iMac 27″ intel i7 2.93GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI HD5750 [1GB GDDR5], 2TB Int. SATA with 2TB External HDD; (FW800).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 1, 2010 at 2:41 am

    1 or 2 a week?

    Perhaps it’s not worth it then.

  • Thomas Morter-laing

    October 1, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Sorry im sure I’m probably being thick here but what sort of situation calls formmore than that? I know a few very busy tv editors and I appreciate a lot of transcoding and compressing happens, but normally between dv pal and pro res formats, only to h264 for the last export or 2…

    😀
    Tom Morter-Laing
    Certified Apple Product Proffessional, 2010
    Degree; TV Production

    iMac 27″ intel i7 2.93GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI HD5750 [1GB GDDR5], 2TB Int. SATA with 2TB External HDD; (FW800).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 1, 2010 at 3:42 am

    I make h264s for clients that are not by my side for review copies. If things are heated I’ll make 5-10 a day.

    I am on the tail end of a big campaign that had 26 videos which shared similar graphic elements. If that changes, client reviews all of them. So if ten of them changed, I’d make 10 just for that one change. If there was another change, I’d make 10 more.

    I’m sure there’s much crazier examples out there.

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