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[Andy Neil]

[Chris Harlan] “I think you are brazenly wrong here. The actual joy of FCP is/was that it allowed you to pursue any number of editing paradigms at pretty much any given time.”

I’m sorry Chris. Perhaps you don’t see my point. I’ll try again with an example. Let’s say your workflow in Avid MC is to pull sequences into the source monitor and cut complex edits into another sequence. How would you do the exact same workflow in FCP? You can’t because while you can load a sequence into the viewer in FCP, when you edit it into another sequence, you’re left with a nest, not the individual clips from the source sequence.

Of course, you can just open both sequences, select or blade the clips and copy/paste, but then you’re not doing the same workflow. You’re consigned to the workflow allowed by the program. So then, by that nature, if a particular workflow in one program is too much of a pain to recreate precisely in another, you ultimately change the way you edit to best fit the program you’re using. Or at least I do.

Andy

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[Oliver Peters]

[Andy Neil] “You can’t because while you can load a sequence into the viewer in FCP, when you edit it into another sequence, you’re left with a nest, not the individual clips from the source sequence.”

That’s completely incorrect. In fact, it’s pretty much the first thing Avid editors who migrated to FCP learned. Instead of Insert/Overwrite you use Insert/Overwrite With Sequence Content. I’ve remapped F9/F10 that way on every system I have used for years.

– Oliver

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[Andy Neil]

[Oliver Peters] “Instead of Insert/Overwrite you use Insert/Overwrite With Sequence Content.”

Nice tip. I never knew that shortcut existed and I’ve been editing on FCP for over 12 years.

I guess then as an alternate example, You can look at how effects are built in Avid, specifically when an editor is used to just creating add edits in filler and applying an adjustment effect to an entire section of footage.

The same workflow can’t be produced in FCP because of how FCP treats gaps in a sequence. A different approach is necessary. Unless Oliver pipes in with some Add Adjustment Layer shortcut I’ve never heard of either. 🙂

Andy

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[Chris Harlan]

[Andy Neil] “[Chris Harlan] “I think you are brazenly wrong here. The actual joy of FCP is/was that it allowed you to pursue any number of editing paradigms at pretty much any given time.”

I’m sorry Chris. Perhaps you don’t see my point. I’ll try again with an example. Let’s say your workflow in Avid MC is to pull sequences into the source monitor and cut complex edits into another sequence. How would you do the exact same workflow in FCP? You can’t because while you can load a sequence into the viewer in FCP, when you edit it into another sequence, you’re left with a nest, not the individual clips from the source sequence.
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I did understand, Andy, and I think Oliver does a fine job of reinforcing my point about FCP’s flexibility in the adjacent post, so I won’t reiterate.

[Craig Seeman]

[Andy Neil] “Nice tip. I never knew that shortcut existed and I’ve been editing on FCP for over 12 years.”

There’s some irony in that. Given that nobody has been using FCPX for more than a few months, there’s a whole slew of workflows that people may be overlooking and therefore calling the program inadequate.

[Richard Cardonna]

I am sure that avid and adobe are getting ready for anything that fcpx may launch next year. They don’t want to be caought offgard again.

So expect many inovations and freebies from them.

Ric

[David Lawrence]

[Craig Seeman] “There’s some irony in that. Given that nobody has been using FCPX for more than a few months, there’s a whole slew of workflows that people may be overlooking and therefore calling the program inadequate.”

I hear if you type:

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

you get tracks.

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[Craig Seeman]

[David Lawrence] “I hear if you type:

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

you get tracks.”

I thought they had medication for that. 😉

I heard that if you force quit FCP7 after starting FCPX, you can hear Bruce the Yak yell in pain.

[Herb Sevush]

[Craig Seeman] “Given that nobody has been using FCPX for more than a few months, there’s a whole slew of workflows that people may be overlooking and therefore calling the program inadequate.”

After working with FCP for over 7 years I find myself constantly finding new shortcuts and new ways of doing things; almost every time I work with a different editor I learn something new. The fear is that the goals of ease and simplicity that seems to have driven the design for FCPX will make these kinds of alternatives unlikely. It is precisely that which makes FCP difficult for novices to learn that is its strength – it’s almost infinite ways of accomplishing almost anything. Ease and simplicity comes at a cost.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Jeremy Garchow]

You need another B A, and then hit “start”!

I think Andy’s point is that FCP7’s interface informs how we work as does anything that allows manipulation.

You must use a sequence to layout clips in time, you must put 6 channels of audio on six separate tracks, you must composite transparent layers on top of non transparent. You must move certain layers out of the way, even if you want to overwrite them by dragging in the timeline. You must solo audio/video channels for stem export one by one. You must select the exact right edit points to trim multi layered timelines. You must dig in to bins to find your footage and watch clips one by one through a double click on every clip. You must select all clips to the Left/right if you want to shove clips up/down the timeline. You must adjust filter parameters in a tab. You must name your clips in the bins one at a time, etc and so forth.

While FCP7 may provide more than one way to work and has certain flexibilities, there’s still methods we have to employ and “rules” to follow and learn.