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  • track matte won’t render in Premier Pro CS6

    Posted by Anne Mortensen on March 23, 2013 at 1:34 am

    Hi!

    I put a simple track matte on a track in order to blur out the background while keeping the main subject in focus. Lo and behold, PPro wouldn’t render that portion of the clip no matter what. So, I deleted it, and then it all rendered just fine.

    Has anyone else had this problem? If so, was there a solution you came across?

    I really don’t want to take it into AE to do such a simple task because the last time I did an import back into PPr from AE took forever!

    Any advice welcome.

    Thanks!

    Dennis Radeke replied 13 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Tim Kolb

    March 23, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Would Premiere Pro “preview” render it?

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • David Kuhnen

    March 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Yes, I too have experienced this although my situation was much more complex.

    I wanted to reveal a Photoshop layer of text using a soft wipe, over a video background. The Mac side of Pr does not have a soft edge wipe transition (pretty basic stuff, one would think) so I set up a soft edge gradient still image, from black to white, and tried to use it as a track matte.

    My machine would not even show me a preview if I parked the playhead over the track matte portion. I had to move the Photoshop clip and the gradient to an empty portion of my sequence (i.e. no background video) before it would even show me the track matte, and no, it would not render for me.

    After several attempts/modifications I finally gave up and went with a dissolve.

    David Kuhnen
    BVK-Milwaukee
    Video Editor/Engineer

  • Tom Daigon

    March 23, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    I had a slightly different issue with track matte effect.

    On Video 1 a video clip. On Video 2 I had a Rampant Design Animated Style Matte which could be used as an Alpha or Luminance matte.
    Then I would assign the Track Matte effect to the clip on Video 1 and set the controls to look at Video 2 It looked wonderful.

    But, when I would do a Preview Render (which was necessary for other reasons) the result show a very screwed up image where the matte was being badly interpreted for the first few seconds the image played.

    What fixed it was to move both clips UP one video track AND on Video 1 and a black slug. When rendered, the track matte now was displayed correctly .

    Images of the momentary reversal effects that corrected after playing for a few seconds.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/937285

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
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  • Tim Kolb

    March 23, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Can you guys fill in some more detail on what you’re doing?

    I can’t seem to create a problem on my system.

    Is there a particular type of document you’re using for a matte? Any particular effect that you’re using with the key?

    I can even make the matte on two-key source on track one situation that Tom was referring to work…though since you usually key over something else, I can’t visualize the purpose of doing that.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Tom Daigon

    March 23, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    LOL! Tim, I dont think I can explain it any better then I did in my post, which does a pretty detailed breakdown of what is where. With pictures even 😀

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
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  • Tim Kolb

    March 24, 2013 at 12:44 am

    [Tom Daigon] “LOL! Tim, I dont think I can explain it any better then I did in my post, which does a pretty detailed breakdown of what is where. With pictures even :D”

    🙂 You didn’t say what sort of a clip the matte was…since it had an alpha channel, there is a smaller set of options, but still, it could be a number of filetypes…and you didn’t mention what sort of file the video was either…

    I’m tryin’ to repro your bug here man! 🙂

    (…but once you make the matte key with the source on V1 and the matte on V2, what is “outside” the matte if there isn’t anything below it? Is it just empty black?)

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Tom Daigon

    March 24, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Sorry man . I thought I had been thorough.Actually the problem has been solved, if you reread my earlier post.

    1, Video 1 has video clip (Photo-JPEG QT movie) with Track Matte effect (set to either Luminosity or Alpha, both had issues when it was rendered).

    2. Video 2 has Rampant Design Style matte. Its a b&w animated QT matte that cuts the hole ( either with luminosity or alpha channel) and reveals Video 1 media.

    So you get video revealed with animated mattes over black.

    It worked great until I had to render it. Then it looked like the images I posted….wrong.

    The solution was to move the clips up a track and put a black slug on track one. That allowed me to render the effect without it getting screwed up.

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
    (Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
    HP Z820 Dual 2687
    64GB ram
    Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

  • Tim Kolb

    March 24, 2013 at 3:05 am

    Yeah, I gotcha… I don’t use empty timeline as black, I don’t know how I got into that habit, but I have.

    At any rate, I don’t seem to run into issues with the track matte key here, so I’m trying to see what file types the posters in the thread are using…and which effects/blurs, etc.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Dennis Radeke

    March 25, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    There are two possible reasons

    1 – you misspelled Premiere Pro and it took offense. 😉
    2 – you might want to do these two tips: https://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2011/02/premiere-pro-cs5-maintenance-two-great-tips.html

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