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  • Bob Pierce

    April 4, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Some alarming news from Huffington Post. Right at the top, #10…

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/02/uss-most-endangered-industries_n_842787.html#s259829&title=10_Video_Postproduction

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  • Jeremy Doyle

    April 4, 2011 at 3:00 pm
  • Brian Mulligan

    April 4, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    This link has a bit more explanation….

    https://www.ibisworld.com/industry/default.aspx?indid=1247

    Notice how they are defining Video production

    The Video Postproduction Services industry includes businesses that prepare motion pictures for public distribution. Companies that are involved in movie or television production and also do postproduction in-house are excluded from this industry.

    and the only company they name is Technicolor.

  • Mark Suszko

    April 4, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    I’m pretty skeptical of several of that source’s conclusions about not only our industry, but a couple of others. Rarely is a story like this as cut-and-dried as this one makes out. Sure, the economy put a dent in new home starts because it is financially prudent to pick up a deal on an existing home today. However, to say this dooms all manufactured housing is a reckless assumption. They may only be looking at one segment of that market, and not too closely. The DWELL magazine I like to drool over every couple of weeks is packed with ads for… Manufactured Housing. And we’re not talking low-rent Katrina FEMA trailers. These are very striking and unique custom-designed high-tech, high-dollar modular modern /contemporary styled homes, built in the factory and assembled on-site, for RICH PEOPLE. Why? Because they want non-standard, unique new construction with these high-style features, and the factory-built, location-assembled manufactured home lets them afford new construction for the same price, or less than, buying an existing home and remodeling that. So how does THAT fit into IBIS’ predictive thinking?

    And I know diddly about the housing business. Arguably, I should know a little bit more about the video business. Looking over that “report”, it is not at all comprehensive and looks and feels like the conclusions drawn by an undergrad for a 5-page paper he or she rushed thru in a weekend. They seem to try to lump every kind of video operation into a catch-all category and then pick just one representative of that category to stand in for it all. Like using Fiat America to stand for all US car makers.

    And they want to charge you for this “business intelligence”?

    I’m missing an easy gig, it seems.

  • Walter Soyka

    April 5, 2011 at 2:38 am

    Unless you’ve got a couple Alchemists sitting next to your rack of HDCAM decks, I don’t believe this analysis considers you a post house.

    A notable quote from the article:

    Video Postproduction is the second notable information industry that is exhibiting steep declines. Technological advances, particularly involving the widespread adoption of digital media have adversely affected the industry’s range of services, from editing and animation to archiving and format transfer. While the use of this technology is becoming widespread, it is undercutting the industry’s services since production companies can now do much of the work in-house.


    I’m not really surprised to see one analysis that the post production industry is declining, followed by another claiming that the editor position is growing.

    Technology has certainly disrupted our industry several times in the last few decades, and is disrupting it again now. It’s bad for large, established companies with huge amounts of capital tied up in infrastructure, and it’s good for smaller companies or even freelancers who can suddenly afford to get into post-production with a fraction of the investment previously required.

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  • grinner hester

    April 5, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Dying industry? Seems wording as a changing industry would have been better. Dude could have saved some time and ink if he just wrote “Never has video been in bigger demand. Due to changes in technology and price points, old school post houses are being replaced by folks who bust it out quicker and cheaper with better quality.”
    I think that’s what he meant to say.

  • Roy Schneider

    April 5, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Our careers can be summed up by a book called “Who Moved My Cheese”. Simply put, the Post Production (and production) business has changed. Wether it has changed for the good or bad is entirely how you look at it, and adjust to it.

    Gone are the days of the huge Post Houses and the huge editor salaries of the 80’s and early 90’s. Most projects can be done on a lap top, and management expectations are not as high as they used to be.

    On the flip side. Cost of entry is fairly low, and more video production is being done then ever before. 10 years ago, I could do no work at all from my house, now I shoot HD, Edit, and create graphics packages there for clients all the time.

    No doubt Someone Moved our Cheese, It is our mission to find the new deli!

    Roy

    Roy Schneider
    Long Live Da Cow!

  • Richard Clark

    April 6, 2011 at 1:02 am

    change is one of the guaranteed aspects of life but the one we struggle with the most, post production has changed remarkably since I began as a cutting room assistant back in the 60’s. I have loved staying on the edge of new technologies and today my studio is as powerful as anything I have ever worked with and . . . it all fits in my briefcase 🙂 my experience in Sydney, New York and Hollywood have shown me that ‘Bloat’ is a huge post issue. Bloated services and bloated fees and, of course, bloated egos. Back in New Zealand, continuing to edit, I look at Peter Jackson’s model of film making and post production and see a commitment to an Industry. From shoot to screen, they have just opened a fully restored Roxy Cinema in Wellington and they appear to have no shortage of clients flying to the South Pacific. Attitude is everything in my book and flavors come and flavors go, Wellington will have it’s day and then somewhere else on the planet will become the ‘In’ thing. Human nature I guess. So panic not and do the thing you most want to do in life, it may not even be in Film 🙂 Coming home to my roots I have discovered photography and writing, fancy that.

    Richard Clark’s kiwicafe.com
    Film | Photography | Writing
    http://www.kiwicafe.com/
    Aotearoa New Zealand

  • Neil Hurwitz

    April 6, 2011 at 5:30 am

    Sad to say it
    BUT IT IS TRUE
    This industry is being segmented into the
    Low end and the High end.
    The great middle of the industry has been gutted like a Flounder.
    Let’s do an informal poll
    How many here work in companies with more than 15 but less than
    100 employees?
    The great middle was where most of the entrepreneur types cross bred
    with the creative types and supported each other.
    In today’s present environment this no longer exists.
    You either have to be real small, use freelancers on a job by job
    Basis or rather large to offer just about every conceivable service
    And have sufficient capital to get the latest and greatest.
    By low end I do not mean low end product I mean a low end physical
    Plant with minimal full time staff, where the owners usually are
    editors themselves and they and maybe one or two others are the
    company. If an industry is comprised of companies where one or two
    heart attacks can shut them down, is it really an industry?
    Large companies greater than let’s say 100 employees have the advantage of staffers that are not hands on But can be hands on
    with the clients. They have traffic departments that track all client materials, they have schedulers to keep the place running smoothly, they have staff engineers so a problem can be addressed
    on the spot and not on the phone or by email, they have spares,
    they don’t have any single point of failure.
    So yes the industry of the independent post house is shrinking
    But that is not to say that there are less jobs in the jobs
    associated with post, they are just spread out quite differently than
    they were just a few short years ago. I would not want to be running
    around town with 10 years experience, a good reel and asking for a
    100,000 dollar salary now, that’s for sure.
    It’s going to be interesting to see what the shake out is from
    the shortage of SR stock. I know lots of houses in the NYC area
    where SR work was their last big Locomotive and now they are worried.

    Neil Hurwitz

  • Richard Clark

    April 6, 2011 at 6:55 am

    says it all . . . for today 🙂
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/industry_sectors/film_and_television/ScreenIndustrySurvey_MR09-10.aspx

    Richard Clark’s kiwicafe.com
    Film | Photography | Writing
    http://www.kiwicafe.com/
    Aotearoa New Zealand

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