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Too many 15 second clips with P2
When I get a drive back from a BRoll shoot, it will often contain hundreds of 10 to 15 second clips. The HVX creates a new clip every time the camera is started and stopped. It makes managing all the B roll a pain because I can no longer scroll through a long clip to see the different shots on it. Now I have to look at 50 different clips to accomplish the same thing, not to mention the ridiculous size of the bins. Is there a way to set the camera so it just makes one long clip? Are there any work arounds anyone knows of?
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One option is to throw them all into a sequence and you can pick & play at will.
Dean Sensui — Imagination Media Hawaii
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What Dean said works best for us. What editing app are you using?
We use Production Studio CS3, and with PPro, you can simply select all of the clips in the media bin, choose “Automate to Timeline”, then all of your clips are moved to the sequence allowing you to scrub through all of the clips at once.
A bit of a work-around, but the only solution that I am aware of. And to answer your question directly, no, you can’t command the camera to record one long clip. At least I’m not aware of any such feature.
-Brad
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I’m using FCP, and the timeline sequence is the only solution I’ve thought of as well. It will have to do, but I’m working on long format documentary with thousands of these short clips. It’s a little annoying, not to mention the issue of renaming the clips with some kind of meaningful name, or labeling. Now I have to label 10 different clips with the same label just because each take is a different clip. Etc…
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With digital recording using formats such as XDCAM or P2, it is the proper thing for the camera to create separate clips when you start and stop record – that’s what you’re doing on tape, starting and ending. It’s doing the logical thing.
The one drawback is that you can’t just play straight through as you can on videotape.
The best solutions are stated above, throw it all in a timeline – hopefully one that has matching timecode, so you can log footage at the same time.
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Hi Kal,
Yea, I did a 2-camera 8-hour job last October, and it was a nightmare – especially when you add the other camera and the goofy naming convention that Panasonic came up with.If you don’t already have it, pick up a copy of Barry Green’s The HVX Book. It’s written for the HVX 200 but it is almost totally applicable to the 500 and well worth the money.
As for file naming, you need to make sure that you are setting up your camera with an SD card to assign your own user file name prior to the shoot. This way you can sort the files in post by the name that you assigned. Like Camera01_001, Camera01_002 etc.
As Barry points out in his book, the P2 workflow and long-form shoots may not be the best combination at this stage of the game (for the very reason you created this thread). But I have learned a few tricks since my shoot in October that have really made the process a lot less painful.
-Brad
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Totally agree for b-roll- an append to single clip mode would be useful.
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I tend to do the sequence thing as well. Because yes, 200 10 second clips are annoying.
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This sounds like one of those things that in the future we’ll look back and say, “Remember when our P2 cards were so small we had to shoot 10 second clips! Now we just keep the camera rolling with all the space we have.”
1 Terabyte P2 cards anyone?
Rich Rubasch
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lol- maybe some day there will be a camera where you decide when *not* to record.
Noah
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Hi,
As far as the clips being named the way they are, you could use the MetaData upload feature of the camera and then having a user clip name that is “english” and will increment everytime you stop start. You could also think about using the shot marker so that it would help you determine which clips were the better clips. Using the P2CMS would allow for much of this to become part of the pre-import workflow and you could look at the clips there and ID only those that you want to import.
Hope this helps,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, HPX500, HVX200, DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems
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