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  • Tone audio overmodulated in Edit to tape mode

    Posted by Gene Bauer on June 9, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    When I go into Edit to Tape mode to lay off bars and tone the audio sounds way overmodulated. It sounds perfect in preview so it is not a Mackie board setting. It can’t be a feedback issue because I have black routed on the input. I could not find any settings in Edit to Tape module that would cause this. Any info would be greatly appreciated..THX

    Running 10.5.6 with FCP 6.0.5 on a MAC Pro 3,1 with 8GB and a Lacie RAID mounted via ESATA.

    Baz Leffler replied 16 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • John Fishback

    June 9, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Perhaps you are hearing both the FCP output and the playback from your deck at the same time. That could over drive the audio channel.

    John

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  • Baz Leffler

    June 10, 2009 at 1:42 am

    When I use FCP bars and tone for export to Digibeta and HDCam via my Decklink boxes I set the tone level to -20 which shows up correctly on the decks expanded level meters.

    Remember FCP tone is 0db and digital requires -20 (debatable but I stand by those specs cos thats whats in my deliverables contracts!)

    Baz

    What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!

  • Michael Gissing

    June 10, 2009 at 3:50 am

    [Baz Leffler] “Remember FCP tone is 0db and digital requires -20”

    FCP actually defaults to tone @ -12dbfs. -20dbfs is correct SMPTE broadcast spec and -18dbfs is PAL broadcast spec. Australia is the only PAL country to adopt the -20dbfs SMPTE spec.

    Don’t sweat it though Baz, no-one seems to reject PAL tapes with -20dbfs tone anyway. At the end of the day, the tone reference on a digital tape is redundant but comforting to the old analog broadcasters.

  • Baz Leffler

    June 10, 2009 at 4:13 am

    [Michael Gissing] “Don’t sweat it though Baz, no-one seems to reject PAL tapes with -20dbfs tone anyway.”

    Yes I agree Michael – in fact I got a QC report from OS recently stating…

    “-20dBFS tone is incorrect for a tape of this standard”

    I thought to myself, “what does that mean? Is the tape quality to high for a meager -20?”

    Never the less, it didn’t get rejected, just a ‘mention’.

    So all future HD masters I sent had -20 mentioned on the label.

    [Michael Gissing] “At the end of the day, the tone reference on a digital tape is redundant but comforting to the old analog broadcasters.”

    YUP! But WHATEVER YOU DO…. don’t let program content exceed -10dBFS!!!

    Incidently most prosumer camera’s including the Sony Z1 tend to record audio 12dB too high and I am forever setting the master FCP faders to -12.

    Baz

    What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!

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