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  • Toggle TIMELINE VIEW between viewer and canvas

    Posted by Rose Glandfield on October 12, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    Hi

    Tom – I think you misunderstood my query – I know how to switch between the canvas and viewer – I need to toggle between TIMELINE views, i.e. what’s shown in the timeline, so that instead of seeing the Canvas sequence information, I am seeing the viewer information in the timeline. Any ideas?

    Tom Wolsky replied 18 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    October 12, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    FCP is not an Avid. It does not work like an Avid. It is very different. If you try to run it like an Avid and use Avid terminology you’ll be frustrated. You asked for switching between the viewer and the canvas.

    Basically, you can’t see the Viewer in the timeline. What is exactly you’re trying to see that’s in the viewer that you want to put into the timeline? The motion graph? The audio portion? Or are you loading a sequence into the viewer and expecting to see it displayed in the timeline? That’s not going to happen. FCP treats the viewer as a source monitor, the holder of a single item. If you load a sequence into the viewer it’s still treated as a single clip.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

  • Richard Harrington

    October 13, 2007 at 1:04 am

    Load sequence in viewer and patch the tracks

    you can also have both sequences open and click its tab to check things

  • Rose Glandfield

    October 13, 2007 at 9:12 am

    [Tom Wolsky] “FCP is not an Avid. It does not work like an Avid. It is very different. If you try to run it like an Avid and use Avid terminology you’ll be frustrated. You asked for switching between the viewer and the canvas.”

    I am all too aware that FCP is not Avid. Deficiencies like this make me yearn for a Media Composer, but I am certainly under no illusions, and have at no point used ‘Avid terminology’: Viewer / Canvas would otherwise have been described as Source / Record Monitor, no?

    And I didn’t ask how to switch between the viewer and the canvas in my original post, I asked how to “Toggle between the viewer / canvas in the timeline

    Being able to view the contents of your viewer in the timeline is really useful on longform documentary projects where you have several complicated sequences to cut into each other. I’m sure it wouldn’t be beyond Apple’s capabilities to add this feature in the future.

  • Tom Wolsky

    October 13, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    For some reason your original post and my reply have ben removed from the thread. Something really annoying is going on in the forums, and I don’t want to deal with it.

    FCP will probably never work the way you want it to work. It’s design it quite different in this regard.

    Also you might want to be really careful about using a procedure that places portions of a sequence inside another sequence. If you’re planning to mark numerous I/O points in a sequence and then edit them into another sequence, your project will bloom in size and the application will get slower and slower, unless you have a really fast system maxed out on RAM. The application will work much more efficiently if you can and paste sections from one sequence into another.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

  • David Battistella

    October 13, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    If I may mak a suggestions.

    Try this.

    Open your sequences in Tabs, so that it is easy to switch between them.

    Marquee or shift select the part of the sequence you want

    Use copy (apple key C

    Use paste to paste it into a new sequence.

    You might find Over time that this system is more efficient than AVID’s method, but it is the best way to accomplish teh same thing in Final Cut Pro.

    David

  • Rich Joyce

    April 18, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    What if I want to paste the portion of the second timeline I copy as an insert edit? How does FCP handle that?

    Also, do you know if I can take multiple clips of a current timeline, bring it into the viewer, mark a new in and out if needed and insert it in the same timeline at a different spot?

  • Tom Wolsky

    April 18, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    You cannot load multiple clips into the viewer. You can load a clip into the viewer or you can load a sequence into the viewer. You can copy and paste between sequences, and you can ripple cut from one place and paste insert into another place, either the same sequence or into another sequence.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

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