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  • Posted by David Mathis on May 7, 2016 at 1:19 am

    Just read the recent article from Walter, now trying to decide whether to make the jump. It has been too many months since the latest update to Final Cut which has me a little concerned. I am going to shoot in Cinema DNG raw going forward. I loathe round tripping. Not sure what to do and looking for advice.

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  • Andrew Kimery

    May 7, 2016 at 1:27 am

    By jump you mean edit with Resolve? Why not just try and see how it goes? It’s not like you can’t change your mind later. 😉

  • Charlie Austin

    May 7, 2016 at 2:14 am

    [David Mathis] “It has been too many months since the latest update to Final Cut which has me a little concerned.”

    I wouldn’t worry too much about that. On the other hand, as Andrew says, give it a try, not like you have to spend any money no matter what you decide to do. 🙂 Personally, tracks and bins and tabs make me want to scream these days, but YMMV of course. 🙂

    Also, this may be of interest… https://player.vimeo.com/video/164772138

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 7, 2016 at 3:06 am

    I’ve been getting into Resolve 12.whatever.the.latest.full.release (not the latest beta) as I needed to develop a better conform workflow and Pr wasn’t ….unmmm…. cutting it, and fcpx alone doesn’t even pretend to do what I need for conform.

    Resolve is a sweet sweet tool. It provides a great range of functions, and the quality is great.

    But it doesn’t organize very well, and while the mode based tabbed interface is really great (media/edit/color/deliver) there’s a lot of going back and forth if you’re editing/organizing. You seriously can’t touch fcpx organizing and footage review with a 10 foot pole, and for me, that would be very hard to give that up. I curse fcpx’s video out performance every single day. It causes so much embarrassment in client based edit session, but I suffer through because it’s still the right tool.

    Yet, Resolve is definitely a big part of my toolset now. It is an awesome extension of fcpx. The xml translation is pretty good, even with blade speed. I can trim and consolidate footage, I can relink to all different types of media, and can create multiple sets of data from one timeline and page. A cinemaDNG to fcpx/Prores back to Resolve/DNG round trip would be pretty easy.

    That’s not to say Resolve won’t work as an editor. Clearly, it does, and would be great for certain jobs, but for me it’s not a nimble and creative organization and edit tool quite yet. Fcpx and resolve are really great companion apps, and fills a lot of empty holes in an X workflow.

  • Scott Witthaus

    May 7, 2016 at 11:44 am

    I am with you, Jeremy. I have been putzing on versions of Resolve since 10 and it’s not a great editor in comparison to X and (dare I say it) Premiere. I view it as a finishing box with all the “heavy-lifting” editorial happening in X.

    I agree with Walter to a point about freelance editors need to know color correction. Yes, but knowing color correction does not equate to diving into Resolve color and knowing it inside and out. That’s not a great use of my time. Any color correction that I can’t do in X (or in the case of broadcast spots, won’t do in X in my studio) will go to Resolve and a trained colorist with a control surface, broadcast calibrated monitors and real scopes. I see no need to have my little company invest in that gear. I also see no need to force something to Resolve when it can be done in X, with plug-ins as needed.

    Why the need to “jump”? Is X lacking something so important that you would jump to a beta product from a company just getting it’s feet wet in NLE’s? I will be interested in watching Walter’s experiences with a full blown series through Resolve. But I am not putting any client work of mine on the “bleeding edge” until I am sure the product is stable and I have a really good reason to switch from a product that works really really well for me as is.

    My humble opine.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Scott Witthaus

    May 7, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “Also, this may be of interest… https://player.vimeo.com/video/164772138

    There ya go. Why jump?

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

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  • Steve Connor

    May 7, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “Personally, tracks and bins and tabs make me want to scream these days, but YMMV of course. 🙂

    Just spent a week on an intense project on PPro with no screaming at all! I prefer FCPX in most respects but I really wish it had a more customisable interface

  • Bob Woodhead

    May 7, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Scott, David, et al…. I’ve tried the Color Finale demo, and I’m having trouble seeing what the fuss is about. At least in placing it as a viable “close-enough” alternative to a tool like Resolve. (Caveat – that may be my mistake right there – perhaps folks aren’t really positioning it as such.) It seems to be that there’s just not enough precision/flexibility in the controls. Especially in the realm of masking the effects. Yeah, I know that masking can be achieved using X’s built in selection tools, but those are crude compared to Resolve. eg; often I want to use luma and/or chroma controls to mask a CC, and a color-picker just ain’t good enough.

    I’m not dismissing Finale – it looks like a great “step up” to keeping CC inside X, and I am all for that! I CC the majority of what I shoot/edit, even if it’s just a tweak. Sometimes it’s dramatic, sometimes it’s a touch on the gamma, whatever, LOVE doing inside X. When I shoot log, and really want control, it’s off to Resolve. But the roundtrip overhead and the added hassle during revisions… makes me think about it 1st when in preproduction.

    Guess what I’m looking for is a Resolve plug-in. 🙂

  • Steve Connor

    May 7, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “There ya go. Why jump?

    Because he wants to shoot in Cinema dng RAW and FCPX doesn’t handle it?

    Personally I’d use Resolve to ingest and make Proxies, edit in FCPX then go back to Resolve for output

  • Charlie Austin

    May 7, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    [Steve Connor] “but I really wish it had a more customisable interface”

    Can’t say I disagree, hopefully Apple is listening. I like the workspaces. The rest of the UI? meh. Obviously personal opinion…

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  • Steve Connor

    May 7, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “The rest of the UI? meh. Obviously personal opinion…

    As are most things we all post 🙂

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