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  • James Lackleter

    January 18, 2014 at 10:43 am

    I use the word fact because that’s what they are. If someone chooses to use it knowing those original statements, then gods speed. It’s my opinion it’s still in beta condition, and the only thing that is good and works is red code.

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    January 18, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    excuse me, it only handles red code well? Simply not true.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Scott Witthaus

    January 18, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    [james Lackleter] “The list goes on, these are the big issues. I hope this persuades anyone thinking of purchasing this. This has been a nightmare for me.”

    Thank god you’re here to guide the world on this topic. Exactly what type of “professional” work do you do and how does that qualify you to guide the rest of us?

    Any “professional” who has been around a while can write a post like this for Avid, Premiere, Smoke, Flame…

    Nothing to see here….move along…

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Andre Van berlo

    January 18, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    I’m not an editor, don’t know any editors, nor am I living in LA, NY, or London…

    But here’s a thought:

    I do know that answers to questions depends on the one who asks them and/or how the answer reflects on the person answering the question.

    When my mum asked if I took a cookie I would say no, simply because I knew she wouldn’t like it if I did.

    If I would be an editor using a program that has been bashed for 2+ years by an entire industry, would I put my credibility on the line by telling people I use it?

    It’ll take time for it to be accepted. Some are apparently more open and yes I believe that perhaps no serious in La editor is using it. But the reason why doesn’t necessarily have to do with the program itself but more the “general opinion” about that piece of software.

    Like I said, I’m no pro, but there is also some psychology at work. Just look at how this thread “exploded”. 🙂

    Just a thought…

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    January 18, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    [Andre van Berlo] “If I would be an editor using a program that has been bashed for 2+ years by an entire industry, would I put my credibility on the line by telling people I use it?”

    This is probably true for young editors starting out, but it also depends what part of the media industry they want to work in. I don’t see why this would be an issue for any experienced editor.

    In my experience most editors in the industry in Germany don’t like FCPX, especially since they haven’t really used it, and most larger companies don’t take it seriously yet.

    However, I haven’t lost any credibility by telling people I like it. Why? Because producers see what I can do.
    As a freelance editor I can use the software I like when I edit at my home studio, but need to be proficient in other NLEs to get jobs, that’s always been the case and will never change.

    [Andre van Berlo] ” Some are apparently more open and yes I believe that perhaps no serious in La editor is using it.”

    But what constitutes a “serious editor.” Anybody making a living editing is a serious editor. And there are plenty of people not involved in film working and living in LA. Film and Large Broadcast Editors aren’t better, they might be considered better by many, since we are judged on the quality of the content we edit which has less to do with skills, but the connections one has.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Marcus Moore

    January 18, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    It just amazes me how short people’s memories are. Things change. If they didn’t, FCP Legacy never would have gained any prominence 10 years ago. Premier wouldn’t be gaining any traction today. Some people never would have moved back to AVID… The only way X doesn’t continue to grow and make inroads is for Apple to walk away from it- and from what I’ve heard they have NO intention of doing that.

  • Andre Van berlo

    January 18, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    I definitely agree with you about the “serious editor” thing. I used those words because some here seem to think the only serious editors live in a certain place and do certain things.

    I’m not so sure only young editors would be anxious telling others they like ‘X’. I understand you don’t mind but that doesn’t necessarily go for all pro’s out there.

    But I’m not in the industry so I’ll have to take anyone’s word for it in the end 🙂

  • Oliver Peters

    January 18, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    I guess the puzzling part is why someone feels the urge to warn everyone else away from the software. Clearly a bad experience, but what else? Bug complaints are certainly legitimate, but honestly there isn’t one piece of software that any of us use that isn’t subject to the claim that it’s really just “beta”. For instance, AMA in Avid Media Composer is great for some and completely unreliable for others, because it has been evolving over several software versions.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Nikolas Bäurle

    January 18, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I guess the puzzling part is why someone feels the urge to warn everyone else away from the software. Clearly a bad experience, but what else? “

    For the same reason FCPX editors like spreading the word, people who don’t like it have the need to spread their opinions, especially since many still feel deeply hurt by Apple for killing Legacy, even though it still works. But many still want a better version of Legacy.

    I find it interesting when people spend time making a software look bad, but don’t really know how to use it, and don’t need to use it. Wouldn’t it be better spending time telling other people what software you recommend and like using without trying to make others look bad? I think its the fear of something different, and the uncertainty that perhaps you might at some point not be taken seriously anymore.

    Or there really is an agenda behind some of it. Gettin payed to spread the word.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Walter Soyka

    January 18, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “Posts as such from the OP (and a few others) are so far out in that they air their own personal failures assuming the entire industry is in agreement, that I can’t help but think they’re being “encouraged” from other sources to spread FUD.”

    [Nikolas Bäurle] “Or there really is an agenda behind some of it. Gettin payed to spread the word.”

    These are very big accusations to toss around so lightly. Anyone you care to implicate besides James?

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

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