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To Editors thinking of switching to FCPX 10.1
James Lackleter replied 12 years, 5 months ago 35 Members · 110 Replies
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Lance Bachelder
January 17, 2014 at 9:37 pmThe point was that folks are talking about these seminars like it’s an uber event that has all of Hollywood clamoring to get a seat. It’s just another company trying to make a buck and hoping FCPX is their ticket. It may be, but it’s not Promax all over again. We bought our first Promax system 6 weeks after the release of FCP 1 at NAB 99 and starting doing pro work on it immediately. It’s been over 2 years now and there’s still a bunch of hucksters trying to sell training and system integration by trying to convince the world that FCPX is the bees knees – which it is not…. yet.
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Richard Herd
January 17, 2014 at 9:51 pm[tony west] “But it occurred to me, it didn’t really matter what kind of camera he used.
He told the story well. Whatever he was using”
Yes.
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Richard Herd
January 17, 2014 at 9:52 pmHey-ya Mark, who knew editing was a fashion industry?! And what label is on their jeans 😉
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Oliver Peters
January 18, 2014 at 12:45 amI’ll extend a benefit of the doubt for the OP, but this is certainly a pretty goofy post and a bit of RTFM might be in order 😉 Maybe he just tried to use X and had serious issues to set this rant off. Been there too at times.
[james Lackleter] “You can not layer audio with WAVE files.”
I’m not sure what that means. The film I’m currently cutting has multichannel WAVE files attached to each clip. No problem. Yes, there is limited mixing compared to other NLEs, but how it mixes is more a matter of taste.
[james Lackleter] “The limiter filter is broken.”
The limiter is fine, but must be applied to a compound clip, not a single file. In an individual channel, it is applied before volume, which isn’t good. So if you want to compress a stereo mix, for instance, you have to mix without the compressor, then compound that and apply a limiter to the compound. Not the way I like to work, but not broken, either.
[james Lackleter] “You can not export AAF or OMF files without a pricey third party program. “
$99 is pricey for a specialized tool?! You’ve got to be joking. Especially since Avid used to charge $500 to add this function to ProTools.
[james Lackleter] “XML import to Logic Pro X is broken. “
I think that was fixed with FCP X 10.1, although I haven’t tested it.
[james Lackleter] “The color correction is awful, don’t bother. If you use Davinci good luck. FCPX is constantly changing the XML rendering it useless. “
I believe the Resolve issue has been fixed with R10.1, but again, I haven’t tested. As far as correction in X, this is by far one of the best grading subsets on any NLE, in terms of speed, performance and best of all, image quality. I use Symphony, Color, Resolve, but also have done grading in FCP “legacy” (for delivery of feature films and to HBO) as well as with X. I can stack numerous layers of grading in X’s color board and maintain real-time playback. Augment it with a few extra tools, like Nattress Curves, Hawaiki Color, CGC LUT Utility and/or Lawn Road Color Precision and you’ve got a powerful grading environment.
Whether or not professional editors are using X depends on your market. If you step away from LA and NY, you might discover a lot more openness to other approaches, where both FCP X and Premiere Pro CC are the tools of choice, far more than Avid Media Composer. And let’s not get too carried away about feature film editors. “Inside Llewyn Davis” was cut with FCP 7 and “The Wolf of Wall Street” with Lightworks.
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John Davidson
January 18, 2014 at 2:41 am[james Lackleter] “Yes, I’m saying editors don’t use FCPX. Not in LA, not in NY. Not for film, not for broadcast. This is a fact.
“I feel like Marty McFly when his hand started becoming invisible.
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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David Lawrence
January 18, 2014 at 5:04 am[Marcus Moore] “If you’d asked people the same question about Premier 5 years ago (and maybe sooner) I’d wager you’d have gotten the same response.”
Five years ago it would have been the right response. IMHO, Premiere Pro wasn’t ready for prime time until CS6. CC is even better, but I’d sooner start using the magnetic timeline before I rent software! 😉
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James Lackleter
January 18, 2014 at 8:19 amIn a science we use facts to back arguments, not insults. I’ve explained the wave problem earlier, I was the one who discovered it. I’ve poked this programs with more holes than swiss chess. To any would be editors, just look at the credits of those who discourage you from using X.
Just another note, if you use X you will not get hired in NY, LA, or London.
Avid, Prem, Smoke.
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Steve Connor
January 18, 2014 at 8:29 amJames, I think most young Editors know that they need to know a range of tools, not just FCPX.
FYI you started the insults as you continued to do in your last post, Please try making your points without them.Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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Nikolas Bäurle
January 18, 2014 at 9:47 am[james Lackleter] “Just another note, if you use X you will not get hired in NY, LA, or London.”
That doesn’t make sense. If you ONLY knew how to use X then that would be the case. And in that case you probably haven’t been an editor for very long.
James, are you aware that most people posting here have been editors for quite some time and actually know how to use other NLEs as well? I still make most of my money (90%) on Avid and Legacy, that doesn’t mean X is a bad software, because funny enough I actually prefer using X, sorry about that.
[james Lackleter] “I’ve poked this programs with more holes than swiss chess”
Based on what you have been posting I still feel that you don’t know or haven’t started understanding X…or simply refuse to like it.
Mastering a software takes time, not just looking at it once in a while and only trying to find bugs. Most editors at the places I work for have never really dealt with X, but alway have big opinions. And most of them have never actually finished a single project on it…Your advice to young editors is very biased, and you won’t be helping anybody that way. Most young editors won’t be getting jobs in LA, NY or London… and most won’t be getting those High End Broadcasting jobs either.
You keep on using the word “fact” but I have a feeling you’re ignoring the post disagreeing with you from people who are making a very good living with X. Oh, sorry, according to you, people using X don’t have a clue what their doing… The only fact of your’s that I would agree with is that X isn’t an established software yet, but that has absolutely nothing to do with its quality.
“Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python
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