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  • Titling Plugins?

    Posted by Dave Rawson on June 20, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    I’m an AVID editor transitioning to FCP. So far I’m really dissapointed with FCP’s titling. Besides going into Live Type or Motion, are there any cool titling plugins out there that people are using?
    Thanks
    -Dave

    Prof edwin Luna replied 14 years, 6 months ago 15 Members · 24 Replies
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  • Craig Seeman

    June 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Are you using Boris Titler or the horrible generic titler? Boris is quite good. Title 3D, Title Crawl, Vector Shape. It’s all in there already.

    You don’t say exactly what you’re looking for in a titler. There certainly a few plugins with specific features but you don’t say what you’re looking. The included titlers goes a long way for most professionals.

  • Rafael Amador

    June 20, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    You are not the only one disappointed.
    Boris is very good. Comes with FC.
    Andy have a couple of free plugins in:

    https://web.mac.com/andymees/Free_and_Easy/main/main.html

    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Alan Okey

    June 20, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Boris Title 3D is a joke. No live broadcast monitor previewing, no ability to compose over underlying video. It’s archaic.

    Until someone comes out with a decent FCP plugin, you’re much better off doing titles in something like Combustion, where you can see your work properly on a broadcast monitor as you compose.

  • Craig Seeman

    June 20, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    [Alan Okey] “Boris Title 3D is a joke. No live broadcast monitor previewing, no ability to compose over underlying video. It’s archaic. “

    I don’t think that’s a Boris problem. It’s an FCP problem. Live title preview would be great but I suspect it hasn’t been done in FCP because FCP itself doesn’t support it.

    [Alan Okey] “you’re much better off doing titles in something like Combustion”
    If you’re going to talk about Combustion then one may try this in Motion or Shake (although I haven’t).

    The OP asked about a plugin, not a separate app and didn’t say live preview was the issue. If FCP is the limiting issue then NO plugin would solve this.

  • Dave Rawson

    June 20, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Well that is one of my BIG issues. The lack of live preview is a joke. Its driving me insane actually. So this is a FCP issue? Because I used Boris on a daily basis with my AVID, and it was great.
    It seems like there’s a lot of great things about FCP, but man do they need to do something about their horrible titling set up.

    -dave

  • Craig Seeman

    June 20, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    I think your comment is a perfect example of how it’s the app, not the plugin. Boris works differently on Avid vs FCP. I was an Avid editor since about the time of it’s public release and the following 10 or 12 years before moving to FCP. It is one of the things I miss about Avid. Then again so many Avid editors used Photoshop as their main titler.

    Heck I was a Chyron operator too on many projects and making changes over a live (and often playing) image, really is useful.

    I’ll certainly say live title preview would be nice but it certainly hasn’t been make or break for me in my choice of FCP as my NLE.

  • Chris Poisson

    June 20, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Dave,

    I have mixed feelings about most Boris products, but no preview is not entirely true. Once you apply Title 3D and put the clip over your video, you have tons of control over placement, scale etc. in the viewer window, even animation, although most of T3D’s animation sucks. It’s shadows suck too, so I just use the Boris controls in the viewer for placement and size, then animate and put on shadows in the motion tab.

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Craig Seeman

    June 20, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    [Chris Poisson] ” Once you apply Title 3D and put the clip over your video, you have tons of control over placement, scale etc. in the viewer window”

    Try adjusting kerning or leading. You have to go back into the Boris window, tweak, back out to see what you’ve done.

  • David Bogie

    June 20, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    You got a good rant going!
    FCP’s titling tools are basic and silly; we’ve been screaming about them for many years. Apple’s solution, like Media 100’s before, was to give us some Boris tools with alien interface paradigms and unfinished adaptation such as annoying mode windows and lack of helpful previews.

    Motion is a great titling tool once you get past the needlessly creative interface and, if you love After Effects, you may NEVER like Motion. Aside from that, as noted by others, Photoshop is likely to be your best option for titling in FCP if you are hoping for the (implied) elegance and efficiency of your Avid’s tools. never used an
    Avid myself.

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Bob Flood

    June 20, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Hi dave

    FCP Has a great titler! Its called Photoshop!

    and Synthetic Aperture has a plug in called Echo Fire which gives you video out from photoshop via firewire, or any of the FCP capture cards, like kona

    Live type isnt so bad either

    hope this helps

    “I like video because its so fast!”

    Bob Flood
    Greer & Associates, Inc.

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