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Titles in FCP clean before render, Jagged after
Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 4 months ago 8 Members · 21 Replies
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Arnie Schlissel
February 7, 2006 at 7:24 pm[eriqneedshelp] “Please give me constructive advice on HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.”
People have been trying to give you ‘constructive’ advice, they’re telling you to set your system up properly. For whatever reason, you seem to not want to do that. That’s not Thax’s fault. Nor is it Jeremy’s, nor Walter’s nor mine.
BTW, it’s entirely possible that there’s no real problem with your titles. But without a video monitor hooked up, you’ve no way to know that.
Arnie
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Tim Pendergrass
February 7, 2006 at 11:13 pmI’ve had the same problem with my SDI Sony monitor and without, I know exactly what you are seeing and I was never able to fix it either, what I did do is only use Livetype and Boris Red for titling, any FCP title or photoshop file would look jaggy after rendering but perfect before, very frustrating. I have a Dual G-5 with aja IO
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Mike Gorga
March 19, 2006 at 12:36 am>>[eriqneedshelp] “And no, I do not have an external monitor, just a second LCD monitor and my Camera’s LCD. Both look jagged. The problem is not with my monitors.”
The problem is ABSOLUTELY with your monitors. You’re looking at interlaced footage on computer monitors. Get an external monitor, look at your titles there and then let us know how they look.<< NONSENSE! I get the same problem and have NTSC monitors and all my settings are by the book. Imported graphic logo from Photoshop looks great prior to rendering. After rendering it looks like jagged crap. DVCPro50 compression, render settings proper, RT settings where they belong. Graphic looks beautiful on the timeline by itself or when layered over other video that doesn't require rendering. The instant rendering is required....it all goes to crap. Attempt to add a shadow....crap. Move it around (EVEN NUMBERED ON THE CENTERING)...crap. If ya gotta render it, its going to be crap. I see no way out. I've reviewed Philip Hodgetts techniques on this, read all the virtual dismissals by posters suggesting "you have to look at it on the NTSC display" (Duh!).....I am looking at an NTSC display, my settings are correct...I've been all over the net searching for solutions. Crap. Bottom line, if you import a photoshop graphic logo and layer it over items that require rendering....it goes to crap. Perfect alpha channel...no matter. Mike Gorga, Producer/Director MEGCOMM Film & Video Prod. 800.816.1884
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Arnie Schlissel
March 19, 2006 at 12:53 amSorry, Mike, but that’s not my experience. When graphics are prepped properly, they look good on my NTSC monitor regardless of how they look on the computer monitor.
Arnie
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Mike Gorga
March 19, 2006 at 5:10 amEverything is prepped perfectly. Looks absolutely fantastic….UNTIL RENDERED. Then, its like titles from an early Amiga. Compressor, render settings….nothing matters.
If I’m working with stuff that can run in realtime…..looks great. If it has to render…just awful. Looks like staircases.
Mike Gorga, Producer/Director
MEGCOMM Film & Video Prod.
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Mike Gorga
March 19, 2006 at 5:10 amEverything is prepped perfectly. Looks absolutely fantastic….UNTIL RENDERED. Then, its like titles from an early Amiga. Compressor, render settings….nothing matters.
If I’m working with stuff that can run in realtime…..looks great. If it has to render…just awful. Looks like staircases.
Mike Gorga, Producer/Director
MEGCOMM Film & Video Prod.
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Mike Gorga
March 19, 2006 at 10:01 pmThe biggest problem I am currently having is with a LOGO bug I need to put on an entire show. The logo was properly prepared in photoshop 720/540 then converted to 720/480, imported to FCP and opened in a sequence, copied from that sequence into the show. The logo looks great until anything requiring rendering is done. At that point is becomes unusable completely.
All these “use an NTSC monitor” (duh), use DVCPro50 compression….all that stuff has zero impact on my current situation. Everything is perfectly set up, the graphics are perfectly prepared according to the proper specifications, I have an NTSC monitor, NO compression setting makes any difference at all…and I’ve tested them all. It simply looks horrible, amateurish and totally unacceptable when rendered.
I guess the answer is to import the entire 55 minute piece into Livetype to add a stinking bug. Thats just simply unacceptable. We ought to be further along at this point. Why don’t they just come out and say “graphics are an issue” with FCP?
Here’s another oddity. When you add a drop shadow to a logo bug (small graphic) the logo itself shifts but there is no change in the “centering” coordinates in the Viewer. So not only can’t you add a shadow without it destroying the graphic quality…for some bizaar reason it shifts on the screen but the shift is not reflected in the “center” coordinates.
BUGGY! And it was this way before we installed AJA LH as well…when we were just running Firewire in that particular room.
Mike Gorga, Producer/Director
MEGCOMM Film & Video Prod.
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Jeremy Garchow
March 19, 2006 at 10:50 pmHave you tried a pict w/alpha? Do you put the whole layered graphic on or just a specific layer? Have you flattened before you import into fcp?
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Mike Gorga
March 20, 2006 at 3:23 am>>
Have you tried a pict w/alpha? Do you put the whole layered graphic on or just a specific layer? Have you flattened before you import into fcp?<< Yep. Tried all those methods. Yes, flattened....literally every combination I could think of. Looks great until its rendered. If it doesn't ever need to be rendered it looks great. But the instant you render it.....its useless. Mike Gorga, Producer/Director MEGCOMM Film & Video Prod. 800.816.1884 -
Jean Turgeon
March 12, 2011 at 12:01 amPretty simple.
In your sequence settings: chose COMPRESSOR : ANIMATION
And as field dominance, chose : NONE
Often, I even put the filtre DEINTERLACE to the video in the time line, sharper image is generated.
You will love the result.
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