Titler – reversioning issue

[Ivan Myles]

Separate the common and dedicated clips into different tracks. Create unique titles and subtitles for each language, and place them on the dedicated tracks. When it is time to export, turn the tracks on and off as required.

For example, the timeline might look like this:

V9: Spanish subtitles
V8: English subtitles
V7: Spanish titles
V6: English titles
V5: Common video
V4: Common video
V3: Common video
V2: Common video
V1: Common video

A1: Common audio
A2: Common audio
A3: Common audio
A4: Common audio
A5: Common audio
A6: English audio 1
A7: English audio 2
A8: Spanish audio 1
A9: Spanish audio 2

When exporting, enable all common audio and video tracks, and turn on the dedicated tracks as required. If there are too many languages to put on the same timeline, keep the common audio and video on your main sequence and embed it into dedicated sequences for each language.

[James Martin]

Thanks, that’s actually what I’m doing at the moment, but it doesn’t avoid having to duplicate and relabel every subtitle clip. What I’m hoping to achieve is something as simple as in FCP where I dupe and relabel the sequence before pasting my new language copy into the clips.

I’s also quite like to be able to stay flexible and be able to make picture tweaks to language/market versions as needed.

Any ideas?

[Alex Udell]

Hi….

How about this?

Do the subtitles as PSD’s and edit with them into the seq

Do the PPro project as English Master

Dupe it and make the Dupe the next Project the Spanish Master

then if you make Spanish language equivalent PSD’s

you can relink the Spanish project Subtitle PSD files and they will all be updated in the timeline automatically…

You can even have the english and spanish PSD’s with the same file names at the OS level to aid in quick relinking…JUST BE SURE TO PUT THEM IN THEIR OWN FOLDER….

See where I am going?

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

[Jeff Pulera]

Hi James,

Not sure if this will help you, but here goes.

So you complete the English version, then you copy/paste edits to a new Sequence, and that will be modified into the Spanish version. In the Sequence, double-click on a title to open it in Adobe Titler. There’s a button at upper left to make a new copy of the title, this will be the Spanish version. Update text and exit back to Premiere.

Right-click (may be different on Mac) title in Sequence, and choose “Replace with Clip from Bin”. This will take the Spanish title that you just created, and put it in place of the current English title. The placement, timing, fades, etc. all remain intact! Not sure what would be any simpler/faster, I use this often. And of course does not affect titles in the English version, just make sure to hit the button to duplicate the title – sometimes I forget and then I am changing the original!

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

[Walter Soyka]

If you are on Premiere Pro CC, the latest version, released just a couple hours ago, adds a new feature for creating new titles by alt-dragging to a new track on the timeline.

After you duplicate your sequence, if you have all your titles on a single track, you can multi-select them, alt-drag up, and get a new set. Delete the old set and edit away on the new, independent set.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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[James Martin]

Not a bad idea, thanks Alex.

[James Martin]

Jeff, I think this is the kind of thing I was hoping for. I’ll fire up the project and take a look – thank you.