title design oddities

[Aanarav Sareen]

What are the properties of the text (font? font size? shadow? color? fill? etc.)

[Jeff Nelson]

Is that going to make a difference? When I’m composing the title, it looks fine on my monitor, the font is clear. Once I close the Adobe Title Designer and even after I render, the fonts looks like they’ve been compressed a lot like a bad jpg on the web.

The font faces I’m using are fairly thick:

first line:
Formata Bold, size 30.4, Black fill, no shadow.

Second line:
ITC Flora bold, size 23.7, white fill, black shadow, 83% opacity, angle 90%, spreac 19.8

But it changing those settings don’t matter. As I said, they look fine in my monitor while composing, then when I save and close composer, they look like they’re compressed, jagged edges, etc. Never experienced this in 6.5.

[Jeff Nelson]

I opened premiere 6.5 and did some tests with the same fonts, titles over an announcer. Crisp, clear images, sharp titles. But in Premiere Pro, it’s a non-starter. The quality is such that I would have to do my show, export it as an avi and then open it in 6.5 to do the all the titles. Man, that sucks for a program advertising itself as providing “broadcast titles…”

[Steven L. gotz]

Are you sure it isn’t just showing it that way in the Program Monitor? If you export it to a new DV AVI, how does it look?

Steven
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
Learning Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 https://www.lynda.com
Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

[Jeff Nelson]

Thanks. Exporting to a new avi looks the same way, everything looks good except the title fonts which look like crap. Hm…what the heck could this be?

Anyhow, I shouldn’t have to export it to a new avi, once I’ve rendered it I should see the final thing in my broadcast monitor. Like I said, when I’m working in the title composer, it’s rock sharp and looks perfect — I like that new feature of being able to preview the title while you’re making it in your monitor. But once I drag the thing into the timeline, it’s pixelated and crap, no matter what font or size, background, dropshadow, stroke or whatever. Looks great on the monitor while creating it, save, drag into timeline — crap.

[Steven L. gotz]

There is a great article on the subject here: https://www.creativecow.net/articles/hodgetts_philip/titles/index.html

Add some shadows to the text and you may get some immediate satisfaction.

Steven
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
Learning Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 https://www.lynda.com
Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

[Jeff Nelson]

I went and put a brightness effect on the title — and it got rock solid clear again! That is, I didn’t adjust the filter at all, just kept it at 100% brightness, but it fixed the problem! What the — ?

I realize that if I put *any* effect onto the title, and don’t even adjust the effect to have any effect, it goes back to how I was seeing it in the preview monitor, crisp. That is really strange. Well at least it’s a workaround to solve the problem. Shouldn’t have to lay an effect on a title just to get it to show up on the timeline like it does on the title editor.

But thanks for the link and the suggestion to mess with that. Appreciate it.

[Tim Kolb]

Are you using a Canopus card with PPro?

I have seen this with Canopus drivers. Putting an empty title on a track above everything else seems to deal with the problem in these cases…

TimK
Kolb Syverson Communications
Creative Cow Host
2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Jeff Nelson]

Using DVStorm2 card from Canopus. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

[Tim Kolb]

Yes, there are several interesting issues with Storm cards…

This is a pretty well known one…

TimK
Kolb Syverson Communications
Creative Cow Host
2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net