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  • titel alpha channel “ghost” image

    Posted by Martin Halm on February 21, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    hard to explaine:

    in resolve i rebuilt the parts, which contain titels in my avid timeline. from avid i export the titels (only) as QT DnxHD including alpha channel.

    in resolve i manually place the titels above the video, then add the matte and the alpha output. everything works fine so far. but:

    in this case the underlaying video layer is a color BG image with a dissolve. during the dissolve of the color BG (no difference wether its a JPG or a rendered MOV) i see a slight shaddow of the upcoming titel above. but i see parts, that are not supposed to be there yet! then this “ghost-shaddow” fades out 7 frames after the crossdissolve for 2 frames, and now my titel fades in normally.
    the titel itself contains a fade in, which is already rendered in the title.

    thanks for your help

    iMac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
    OSX 10.8.5
    32 GIG Ram
    Resolve Lite 11.1
    Avid MC 8

    Martin Halm replied 11 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Marc Wielage

    February 22, 2015 at 5:18 am

    [Martin Halm] “the titel itself contains a fade in, which is already rendered in the title. “
    In my opinion, you’re better off not rendering the fade-in in the graphic, because this will affect the key clipping. I think it makes more sense to create the transition (fade-in, fade-out, wipe, whatever) in Resolve, or just export the sequence as a flattened file and do the title in your original editing or VFX application.

  • Martin Halm

    February 22, 2015 at 7:46 am

    hi marc,

    i agree, normally i will be better of doing the titles with the flattened file in my NLE. in this case i wanted to go with as less generations as possible. and fades i also usually do in resolve. but here the titles are built in titler pro 3 with baked in dissolves with the time elastic feature. comes in extremely handy when changing titles over and over again due to producers wishes 🙂

    cheers

    iMac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
    OSX 10.8.5
    32 GIG Ram
    Resolve Lite 11.1
    Avid MC 8

  • Andi Winter

    February 22, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    i posted an odd behaviour of davinci concerning embedding graphics with alpha channel a couple
    of posts ago, sadly noone tried it out on their machines with the tiff i provided yet 🙁

    but another question: since when avid can export a proper alpha channel? last time i checked i wasn’t
    able to do so. how did you do it?

  • Sascha Haber

    February 23, 2015 at 10:27 am

    I did try it, you are right, i took screenshots, i will counter check in Smoke and Nuke as soon as i find time, but hey, weekend and such 😉

    Regarding AVID, it can if you supply a PNG with unpremultiplied FG
    https://www.spherevfx.com/written-training/miscellaneous-written-training/understanding-premultiplied-images/

    It’s a PITA these things are still a problem in 2015, but hey, at least they can not replace us with trained monkeys just yet ..

    Resolve 11.2 – Smoke 2015 EXT1SP2 – Sapphire 8
    Colorist / VFX Guru / Aerial footage nerd
    https://vimeo.com/saschahaber
    https://dk.linkedin.com/in/saschahaber

  • Andi Winter

    February 23, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    thx for the link! very informative 🙂

  • Martin Halm

    February 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    well, i just exported as DNxHD and in the compressor settings i choose Alpha: uncompressed and the according resolution (in my case 1080p/25 DNxHD)

    i was just working with titles coming from titler pro 3 either on solid background or on video. i did not encounter any trouble with the alpha channel this way.

    iMac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
    OSX 10.8.5
    32 GIG Ram
    Resolve Lite 11.1
    Avid MC 8

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