Creative Communities of the World Forums

The peer to peer support community for media production professionals.

Activity Forums Adobe After Effects Timewarp & Kronos Matte problem….

  • Timewarp & Kronos Matte problem….

    Posted by Jim Dodson on January 6, 2011 at 5:19 am

    I’ve tried this with both Timewarp and Kronos and the problem is the same with both:

    I have a wide shot of a car pulling up to a house — no camera movement — and I am applying a 200% speed change to it.

    At 200% speed: As the car pulls up to the curb, the lawn in front of the house morphs and is affected by the car’s movement. So I did a very precise roto around the car and used that precomposed roto layer as a matte for Timewarp & Kronos..

    Unfortunately, the matte has no effect on reducing the artifacts…

    I tried fiddling with Luma/Luma Inverted/Alpha and Alpha Inverted and none seem to improve things at all…

    In a previous post it was suggested to do a loose roto around the foreground… Is my roto too tight? (It is precise to the car).

    My workaround is to use my perfect roto — do a timewarp on that layer and lay it on top of a frame blended BG… But I’d really love to see the matte layer working!!

    Any thoughts?!

    Jim Dodson

    8 Core Intel — Mac – OSX

    Chris Wright replied 15 years, 4 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Jim Dodson

    January 6, 2011 at 5:21 am

    PS, I am assuming I am supposed to be roto’ing the non-speed changed layer? (i.e. all the original frames)?

    Is that correct or should I roto only the shorter scene after the 200% speed increase?

    Jim Dodson

    8 Core Intel — Mac – OSX

  • Chris Wright

    January 6, 2011 at 6:25 am

    You MUST pre-compose your matte layer before you use it or Kronos uses the source layer without any effects that you apply.

    Please read the full documentation in pdf form.

    https://thefoundry.s3.amazonaws.com/products/kronos/ae/documentation/Kronos_5.0_AE_UserGuide.pdf

    https://technicolorsoftware.hostzi.com/

  • Jim Dodson

    January 6, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Thanks Chris, but I definitely did precompose before using the matte…

    Any thoughts about the fact that the matte is exact — not loose?

    Or any other thoughts??

    Jim Dodson

    8 Core Intel — Mac – OSX

  • Chris Wright

    January 6, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    hmm, strange, Did you you precompose the alpha effects/mask layer?

    https://technicolorsoftware.hostzi.com/

  • Jim Dodson

    January 6, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    You mean did I double pre-compose – once for the alpha layer and then again for the Matte?

    Jim Dodson

    8 Core Intel — Mac – OSX

  • Chris Wright

    January 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Well, RGB Straight uses the bounding box alpha instead of the matte alpha.

    I don’t know if you’re using alpha mattes, but definitely read page 27 in the pdf. You should follow Foundry’s user’s guide to the letter.

    Short of handing me your project, I don’t know why it’s failing for you. Maybe you’re using h.264 footage.

    https://technicolorsoftware.hostzi.com/

We use anonymous cookies to give you the best experience we can.
Our Privacy policy | GDPR Policy