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Timeline will not render
I’m slowly recovering from a harddrive loss that carried all my source material for a project that was almost edited (outlined in an earlier Cow thread.) The upshot is that I relaid all 30 hours of original Mini DV footage and linked it to my project, then spent several days re-adjusting shots etc. I have managed to reclaim 5 of the 6 chapters (actually projects) of the 50 minute video. Now a NEW problem has developed. For whatever reason I can no longer RENDER my timeline, nor a nested version thereof. I cannot even save an ‘exported’ version of the timeline. That render window also hangs up. The timeline plays back okay, except of course those un-rendered portions.
When I click the project ‘render’ button the window opens and just sits there, without activity. At the bottom of the screen it says: ‘conforming Tape 5’ etc. It conforms a couple of tapes that way, then on tape 21 the blue line fills up and then it just sits there with nothing happening, including ‘no rendering’. I’ve let it sit for an hour or so and still no activity.
At this point I don’t dare delete the Media Cache or Preview files, fearing I will mess up the project. I did delete the ‘Renders’ from the sequence, but that did nothing, except say at the bottom of the screen ‘generating peak file for Tape 31’…very slowly.
Does anyone have an idea what the problem might be? I have searched this forum and many others looking for an answer. I’m so close to finishing this project, after a weeks worth of unepected labor, I hate to give up now. There must be an answer…I hope.
Thanks for any help.
Wendall
Filmmaker42
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How full are the drives your project/s are on, it may not render because of space issues?
I’d let the conforming finish on your footage 1st, if you have captured 30 x 1hour clips that will take ages for the system to conform your clips. That may have filled up the area the renders are going to.
As a last resort, you can import the project into a new one and let it all conform 1st then export out.
Renders are only for playback and aren’t necessary for the exporting of a timeline. They are required for output to tape however.
– Jon 😉Jon Barrie
aJBprods
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Jon, thanks for responding so quickly. My drives appear to be okay, with 300 to 400 GB available on each. I tried to let the conforming finish, but it seems to hang up on a certain video file and not go any further. In other words, there is no progress at all, after a certain point, on the conforming of that particular file. The heck of it is, I only need about 10 seconds of video rendered to complete the timeline render!
As I mentioned previously I can’t ‘export’ to video, because it also hangs up and won’t transfer. I never ran into this problem before.
Your other idea intrigues me…about importing the project into a new project. Specifically, how does one go about doing this? Do you just ‘copy’ the timeline and paste into a new project? I think I tried this method once and it didn’t work.
Just so you know, what I’m trying to do (and I’ve used every method possible to rescue the project to this point) is export 6 seperate projects to a folder, then open the contents of that folder in Encore and import the 6 video files to create 6 chapters. All I need to do is get this one remaining video project into the folder.
Thanks for any further information.
Wendall
Filmmaker42
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If you start a new project, you can go to file>import… and select the project file you were working on. It will ask if you want the entire project or just a specific seq. Then it will bring all the media used in the seq your import. You can select multiple single seqs or one or just import the whole lot.
It sounds like there is an issue with that one clip at that one point. It may have a corrupted bit of indexing/conforming, from cutting it before it had completed the index/conform of it.
Try the import, just the seq you need, then let it re-index/conform before you try to render or export.
– Jon 😉Jon Barrie
aJBprods
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Thanks Jon. I’ll give that a try and let you know.
Wendall
Filmmaker42
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Jon,
I created a nested seq of the main timeline. Then, as you suggested, I tried File-Import, went to the drive & folder & selected the project, however I don’t see anything that askes me if I want the entire project or a ‘specific ‘sequence (which I have named and want.) I did try importing the entire project a couple of times, but Premiere crashed each time.
ww
Filmmaker42
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An up-date Jon. I found an earlier forum on the Cow (last Oct) where you explained how to transfer a corrupted project to a new project, in an attempt to save it. I followed the instructions…copied the old folder to the new project, then opened up the sequence. The folder, with its files, transferred fine this time. However, I noticed while the new project was starting up that the little window at the bottom of the screen said ‘Conforming BRK (name of project)T-2.avi’ Consequently, it took a while to open the new project. I tried opening a couple of ‘new’ projects and the same thing happened, very slow opening. That’s not how it used to happen. It was always very quick. At any rate, after opening the sequence the same thing happened when I tried to render…nothing. The window just sits there. So, it looks like the ‘corrupted’ files were transferred as well.
Is there anything else I can do?
Thanks.
Wendall
Filmmaker42
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Can you render or export from a new project with only color bars?
– Jon 😉
If there is a problem with that then your PPr needs to be reinstalled.
If all works as expected then there must be a corruption of one of the captured files. Recapturing it might be the way to go.Jon Barrie
aJBprods
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Jon, I tried a new project with color bars and it works just fine, so perhaps you are right, there is probably corrpution in a captured video file. How can you tell which file is corrupted? I notice that tape 21 is the one that keeps trying to conform all the time and then stops. It also conforms when I start a new project…it’s always conforming down in the corner. I brought tape 21 to the timeline in the new project and it renders fine, but perhaps there’s another problem with it.
So, I guess I have two question at this point: How do I acertain which AVI is bad and when I recapture it how do I get it to be recognized by the project? Do I recapture the tape again, then delete the old tape from the project and use ‘Link Media’ again? Or, is there a better way?
By the way, after looking at the Premiere ‘Tips’ site suggested by Eddie (thanks Eddie!) I tried a couple things.
* I removed an old version of Premeire 1.5
* I deleted a few old video previews used early in the edit (that
only created more rendering on the timeline)
* And, I downloaded and ran a copy of XML Wrench (which said the
files were valid and well formed)Thanks.
Wendall
Filmmaker42
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If it seems to conform in a new seq the original file must be ok then.
From in the project panel try unlinking (without deleting) the file from the tape 21 clip.
Go to the file and rename it with an underscore “_” – and then relink it. hopefully the conforming will kick in again. and all will be ok.
(fingers crossed)
– Jon 😉Jon Barrie
aJBprods
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Actually Jon, in the meantime, I have deleted the old video file T-21 and recaptured & re-linked the video to the timeline. At this point the conforming has passed tape 21 and gone onto tape 2, which is now hung up like T-21 was. T-2 has also shown up a few times in all this so it too may be problematic.
I’d like to try the ‘unlinking’ in the project file that you mentioned, but I don’t see it anywhere. And, does the underline go after the file name, like this? BRK T-21_
Thanks…again.
Wendall
Filmmaker42
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