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  • timeline clips have lost relationship to master clips

    Posted by Paula Zorgdrager on February 26, 2009 at 2:19 am

    Hi there, just encountered a problem that I’ve not seen in 8 years of using FCP. Some of my projects are behaving oddly when I matchframe from the timeline:
    – matchframe brings the clip to the viewer but it’s no longer anamorphic (all the master clips/rushes in my browser are definitely anamorphic). Have to fix the distortion once it’s been cut into my sequence. GRR

    – SHIFT + matchframe (find in bin) doesn’t work at all (I get the message ‘do you want to add master clip etc’) But I can see the master clip sitting there in my bin! I rely on this one to jump to my rushes quickly!

    Obviously the timeline clips have lost their affiliate relationship to the master clip rushes but I’m wondering why, and if there’s any why I can re-link them? The strange thing is it’s only happening on some projects, and a project that’s fine one day, will lose it’s link the next. The media is running off an Xserve, the projects were created on the xserve but I end up having to save them to my desktop as at some point I get the annoying ‘Unkown File’ message when trying to save my project. I’m guessing this is probably a server/permissions problem??
    Basically if anyone knows a quick way to get my master clips link back, that would be awesome.

    Many thanks if anyone can help
    Paula Z

    David Neumann replied 17 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Paula Zorgdrager

    February 26, 2009 at 2:52 am

    Just to add to that:
    – have tried reconnecting all clips in the sequence, no change.
    – only certain clips on the sequence are doing this, I suspect these were the ones that were assembled by the assistant in another suite. Any new clips I have cut in seem to behave correctly.

  • John Pale

    February 26, 2009 at 4:49 am

    [paula Zorgdrager] “- only certain clips on the sequence are doing this, I suspect these were the ones that were assembled by the assistant in another suite. Any new clips I have cut in seem to behave correctly. “

    If you drag or copy/paste a sequence from a different project (e.g. from another system) the clips will be independent…they will have no affiliation to the original master clips, even if they are actually identical by reel and timecode. No way to fix that, except to overwrite the same clips from your project replacing them.

  • Paula Zorgdrager

    February 26, 2009 at 5:20 am

    thanks for your response John. As I understand the master clips were pasted in from another project but not the sequence, it was only ever cut from it’s own rushes, if that makes sense. Also it’s happened on one of my projects seemingly ‘overnight’. Where the only thing that could possibly have changed is it may have been opened on another machine, but not saved.
    Bit of a mystery, I will have to figure out where it’s happening exactly. Bugger that reconnecting doesn’t fix it!

  • Bret Williams

    February 26, 2009 at 5:35 am

    I’m lost as to the whole flow of things. But it’s obvious what has happened. A clip only has a master clip relationship to a bin clip within it’s own project. So if clips were copied or pasted or edited on a copy of the project then pasted back or some sort of combination like that, then they lose their connection. Reconnecting only has to do with media, not clips. Someone would have to open your project file and do the work.

    I think you’re best off making new master clips if you must have them in the bin. Then just delete the duplicates that aren’t connected to the media in your timeline. Reconnecting master clips would be a neat feature, but a manual one. Since multiple clips can reference the same media, there’s really no way for FCP to determine which is a master clip.

    The anamorphic setting is set in the bin, so I guess if you don’t have a bin clip, then it’s never going to remember.

    And the whole master clip thing has only been around since version 3 or 4. Not 8 years. 🙂

  • Paula Zorgdrager

    February 26, 2009 at 5:46 am

    Thankyou Bret, all makes sense, I guess there must have been some saving/copying/pasting by someone somewhere that I’ve not been aware of… Also I guess with projects being ‘mobile’ in theory, around the X-serve, things can get screwy. That’s why I thought it may have been a folder permissions things.
    I’ll persevere through this ep. anyway 🙂

  • Peter Wiggins

    February 26, 2009 at 8:27 am

    Try making a new bin, then drag all of your clips off the timeline and into that bin and then save.
    See if that fixes the matchframe problem

    Peter

  • Carsten Orlt

    February 26, 2009 at 9:44 am

    It doesn’t need to be someone else 🙂

    I’m working in a single project now for about half a year and some clips have lost their master link (shift-f not working)

    Today I had the odd thing of a render file linking to the wrong media.

    FCP sometimes has some odd things happening under the hood 🙂

    Carsten

  • Paula Zorgdrager

    February 26, 2009 at 10:05 am

    phew so I’m possibly not going crazy!
    One of my projects that had lost it’s linking a few days ago.. is now back to normal again. Super weird. I’m still not convinced it isn’t OS or Xserve related.
    Carsten – are you working off a media server?

    cheers
    pz

  • Carsten Orlt

    February 26, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Nope, local SATA raids.

    The clips that I have lost connections for never recovered.

    It might be different reasons for the same symptom?

    Because only roughly 0.1 percent of all my clips have lost the link and it hasn’t happened for a long time I’m not concerned.

    Carsten

  • David Neumann

    February 26, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Hi

    How does one overwrite the files? I posted a separate question today Feb 26 related to your comment. Could you please read that post? Any advice would be appreciated

    Cheers

    David

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