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  • Timecode Doesnt exist / Drop frame

    Posted by Martin Fisher on July 28, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Hi there,
    I have to deliver a TV Show and the network is asking that the timecode (drop frame) should be starting at 00;58;00;00.

    I have 2 problems:

    1-When i tell AE (CS5) to Start at the timecode 00;58;00;00 it automatically changes it to 0;57;59;28. But then, if I move 2 frames forward, it counts 00;58;00;02. So i guess that this is ok, BUT this doesnt match the 00;58;00;00 required by the network.

    2- When i export a movie using this timecode and i open it in QT, Quicktime counter repeats the first two frame numbers ! Kind hard to explain as i dont speak english quite well… i’ll try again: I open the movie in QT, and frame 0 is numbered 0, framed 1 is numbered 0, framed 2 is numbered 1, 3 is 2, 4 is 3, and so on… the first two frames counts are repeating… and the same happens with the timecode count.
    I uploaded a QT movie so you can check this yourself: https://f1.creativecow.net/940/qt-drop-frame-from-ae

    I appreciate any help on any of this two problems.

    Thanks!

    Martin Fisher replied 16 years ago 34,841 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Martin Fisher

    July 28, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Once again, thanks for you help Dave.

    “Why the heck are you trying to do time code in AE in the first place? Worry about it in your editing application where you can actually DO something about it.”

    Cause they only sent me the show, and (among other things) i have to put the 30 secs of black, the SMTPE color bars, Slate, etc. in the beggining.

    All of them should be placed at an exact timecode, and the show should start at 01:00:00:00. So, i need to know if i can trust the AE timecode for that (starting at 0;57;59;28 instead of the non-existing 00;58;00;00).

    Overall i have to have TWO exact minutes from 0;57;59;28 to 01;00;00;00.

    Do you think i can trust it ?

    And, as a second question.. have you watched the video I uploaded ?? The double count on quicktime isnt right, is it ?

  • Martin Fisher

    July 28, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    Yes, i am adding them in AE. The bars are a Still image downloaded from wikipedia (SMTPE bars… 75%). Checked them on a vectorscope and they seem to be fine.
    Do you think there is a problem on doing this in AE ? And why the bars will be not accurate ?

    And again, Yes. This is going to tape (Digibetacam). And im paying someone to do that, but im sending them the QT with the Black, Color Bars, Slate, etc. Im also sending them 4 audio tracks.

    The test tone on the bars is not generated by me, but it is generated by the guys working on the audio.

    If you think that some of this is wrong, pls let me know so i can correct it.

    And thanks again !

  • Martin Fisher

    July 28, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Dave, your irony regarding the color bars makes me think that making them the way im making them is terrible wrong. So i’d love to know why is this so wrong.

    I just want to learn everything i can, and not just let the editor know why his bars are better than the ones from wikipedia.

    Again, thanks for the help.

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