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  • Time Stretch = Jumpy Footage

    Posted by Mitch Lewis on May 28, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    I’m a long time After Effects user, but I’ve never run into this problem before….

    I’m producing a 30-second tv commercial. There are 6 different scenes and each scene is it’s own comp. Those 6 comps are then nested into a final 30 second comp. Each of the 6 individual comps contain a spokesperson shot in green screen and some b-roll video floating beside her. The green screen footage is 30p where as the b-roll footage is 60i. I don’t think that contributes to the problem I’m having though.

    It starts with the fact that the spokesperson’s lines add up to more than 30-seconds. So as a fix, I sped up each of the 6 nested comps to 94% using Time Stretch. (I plan to correct the chipmunk sounding audio later using dedicated audio software).

    The problem is that when I render out the final 30-second comp and play it back in Quicktime Player, about every 2 seconds or so, the video “jumps”. It looks like it’s skipping a couple frames or something. It plays smoothly then skips, then plays smoothly then skips. I tried turning on Frame Blending (high quality) inside the individual comps and re-rendering, but the problem still remains.

    I think it has something to do with speeding up the individual comps. But I can’t figure out exactly what the issue is. Can any one provide some suggestions?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Mitch Lewis replied 15 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Mitch Lewis

    May 28, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Here’s some sample video from the project I’m having problems with.

    https://vimeo.com/12121085

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    Sony EX3, Canon 5DM2, Sachtler tripod – 20+ years as a videographer/editor
    Experienced with Apple products, Final Cut Studio, Adobe Creative Suite, MOTU Digital Performer, Flip4Mac, etc…

  • Mitch Lewis

    May 28, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    No kidding? I guess I have used AE to slow down footage frequently and just assumed that speeding it up would look the same. But yeah, you’re right, normally I slow down footage to 200% (1/2 speed). 94% is a small fraction of a change.

    Hmmm…… I need to figure out a different solution. Thanks!

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    Sony EX3, Canon 5DM2, Sachtler tripod – 20+ years as a videographer/editor
    Experienced with Apple products, Final Cut Studio, Adobe Creative Suite, MOTU Digital Performer, Flip4Mac, etc…

  • Jim Arco

    May 29, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    Time-stretch by small amounts seems to work strangely in AE. I have had some luck by first time-warping the video to 200% or 400%, then time-stretch the result (in another comp) by the appropriate amount to get to the speed I need. Make sure pixel-motion is on and add motion shutter blur if needed.

    This gives AE more frames to work with and would change your time-stretch to a larger amount, 47% or 23.4% for instance. Time-warp can be messy with interlaced footage, so you might have to do some other work there.

  • Jim Arco

    May 29, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Forgot to mention:

    The technique I listed was from an idea provided to me by Chris Wright when I was looking for a better method for frame rate conversions for Super8 film.

    Jim

  • Jim Arco

    May 29, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Well, I hadn’t had my first coffee yet…

    With time-warp you want to get more frames to work with / slow the video down. So… you need to time-warp to 50% or 25%, then time-stretch by the same amount.

  • Mitch Lewis

    May 29, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Thanks Dave and Jjm. Jim – that’s a very interesting idea. But I ended up doing what Dave said. I found an area where the spokesperson wasn’t looking at the camera which allowed me to edit her audio and not worry about lip-sync (because you can’t see her lips). That allowed me to negate using Time Stretch on any of the footage but still get her audio down to 29:15 seconds. I’m happy.

    Thanks again. 🙂

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    Sony EX3, Canon 5DM2, Sachtler tripod – 20+ years as a videographer/editor
    Experienced with Apple products, Final Cut Studio, Adobe Creative Suite, MOTU Digital Performer, Flip4Mac, etc…

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