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  • Time Base / Subliminal

    Posted by Consolation on April 12, 2006 at 1:43 am

    Hi,
    i am working on an experiment for a PSYCH dept. I need to place subliminal stimuli in order of ~10ms. How do I set the frames/second to more then 60 in HD 4.5, i keep trying but that’s the highest it will let me go to…
    Also am I wrong in thinking that a 60Hz LCD can at most display at 60fps? That’s not a biggy as we have fast CRTs we can attach to our macs.
    Thanks in Advance

    Consolation replied 20 years ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    April 12, 2006 at 1:51 am

    Subliminal images?

    That old chestnut?

    That was proven to be a “crock o’ stuff” years ago.

    The best way to “try” this (as you said) is with a high-speed-refresh monitor.

    But the “lag” on the screen will cause the image to be retained longer than its “true” exposure time (as will as the viewer’s persistence-of-vision.)

    Gee, I guess “everything old IS new again”.

    Have fun!

  • Chris Wyatt

    April 12, 2006 at 4:07 am

    I think the best you can hope for is superliminal – around 3 frames
    halfmixed from white on black in PAL or NTSC. Coke Ads from the early 90s get close.
    Of course there’s always the fabled Langford Hack – the pattern that crashes the mind observing it –
    but that doesn’t exist quite yet. Audio subliminals of below 10 milliseconds work mighty fine
    in my experience however.
    Cute subject and very old school for a psyche department – reminds me of altered states….

  • Consolation

    April 13, 2006 at 5:34 am

    It’s for an undergrad’s first independent research project so we don’t mind if they try something a bit flakey. Not my choice but…
    However, there has been some good research done recently, you just have to be a lot more subtle with your measures. For example, threat images can reliably show increased cortisol levels in saliva etc… This is for social cognition so we are talking about small but statistically significant changes in social judgment tasks. So no, we can’t get subjects to kill their flatmates, but we can get them to say… rate people as being more likely to be criminals etc.

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