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  • Time base corrector

    Posted by Simon Webb on April 28, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Hi there,

    I’m about to embark on a project that uses a lot of source material that comes from VHS cassettes (ugh!). Anyway, I’ll be digitizing the footage through my Kona LH and I’d better get my hands on a time base corrector before I even start. So…

    Has anyone got any advice on buying a decent, yet inexpensive, TBC?

    Thanks.

    Chris Borjis replied 18 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 28, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    DATAVideo used to make an extremely cheap yet effective SVideo TBC.

    You don’t have an io or ioLA do you?

  • Gary Adcock

    April 28, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    [Simon Webb] “Has anyone got any advice on buying a decent, yet inexpensive, TBC? “

    I would just dub the VHS tapes to Mini DV or Beta then digitize.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows
    Inside look at the IoHD

  • Simon Webb

    April 28, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    I’m afraid I don’t have any of the io line, just the LH.

    Thanks for the info, I’ll look into it.

  • Chris Borjis

    April 28, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    The LH does not have built in TBC? Surely the Kona3 does.
    I guess thats one way to keep the price down.

    You might look into “video clarifier” devices.
    They are really low cost composite (some are s-video too)
    tbc’s perfect for such a thing. They usually have a 9-volt
    battery for power and optional dc inputs.

  • Bob Flood

    April 28, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    HI

    ebay

    If you have a pro deck which has connections on the back for a Drop Out Compensator aka DOC, which is usually an “off tape RF” connection, as well as advance sync, then you should look for Fortel, Hottronic, For-A, and Sony TBCs. The fortel turbo was one of the best, with these great chroma decoding circuits, and i have seen them on ebay for 500

    the DOC and Advance sync are waht give you a true “Time Base Corrected” signal which is cleaner to capture or even bump to DV or BetaSP

    Of course if you dont have those connections, and you are dealing with a consumer VHS deck, you might as well dub the material to DV, digitize it, and do any correction in FCP

    its not the best but its better than trying to dump it straight in.

    hope this helps

    “I like video because its so fast!”

    Bob Flood
    Greer & Associates, Inc.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 29, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    The Kona 3 has no analog inputs. Therefore no TBC or proc amp features.

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

  • James Sullivan

    April 29, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Howdy, in a pinch if you have a standalone DVD burner they have internal TBCs that work pretty well. Come out S-video and analog audio into the DVD player. Then if its a nice one take the component out for video and the analog out into the Kona. You will be capturing now so if you need repeatablity starting dubbing and go to lunch!

    James Sullivan

  • Chris Borjis

    April 29, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    [James Sullivan] “Howdy, in a pinch if you have a standalone DVD burner they have internal TBCs that work pretty well. Come out S-video and analog audio into the DVD player.”

    just an fyi, the panasonic recorders only have tbc on composite input. They do an amazing job

  • James Sullivan

    April 29, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    I did not know that. Thanks for the info!!!

    James

  • Mitch Sink

    April 29, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Hi,

    As a minimum I would start with an S-Video deck with Y/C output.

    They might all be discontinued but the more expensive (about $400) JVC consumer decks had built in Noise Reduction and TBC, called Digipure (I think if its called Digipure it has both DNR and TBC). We compared the playback of a JVC HR-S9911 (consumer SVHS deck – about $400) and we preferred the quality to a Panasonic AG7650 (multi thousand dollar professional deck).

    If you can’t find a JVC S-video deck this might do it (double check and make sure it has TBC):

    JVC DH30000
    https://support.jvc.com/consumer/product.jsp?modelId=MODL026758&pathId=15&page=2&archive=true
    # DigiPure Technology for high resolution analog recording and playback
    # 1080i, 720P, 480P and 480i
    # 2 Sets of AV inputs
    # S-Video inputs
    # 2 Sets of AV outputs
    # 2 S-Video Outputs
    # 1 Component Video Output (Y, Pb, Pr)
    # 1 x Optical Digital Output
    # 2 x I.Link Terminal (IEEE 1394), DV input only for camcorders
    # Front Inputs ( AV, S-Video, i.Link)
    # Frame Synchronizer for pristine analog-to-digital dubs

    Its been discontinued but there are still a couple of companies that list it:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=JVC%20DH30000&hl=en&sa=N&tab=fw
    # Frame Synchronizer Eliminates Jitter & Noise From The Input Signal To Produce High Quality Dubs
    # DigiPure Technology Helps Stabilize The Picture Of Old Tapes & Rental Cassettes
    # Precision 3-D Color Circuit Provides Clear Color Separation & Sharpens Image Edges
    # Precise Digital 3-D YNR/CNR Improves The S/N Ratio By Approximately 3dB
    # Digital R3 Picture System & Digital 3-Dimensional Circuit With 4MB Frame Memory

    https://www.electronicexpress.com/product?prod_id=2944&refer=6&cpc=6
    Closeout Price: $299.50

    If the playback quality is as good as our JVC HR-S9911 you will be very pleased.

    Two units available on Ebay. If the S9911 is in good condition I highly recommend it:

    https://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-HR-S9911U-SUPER-VHS-ET-VCR-DIGIPURE-TECHNOLOGY-SVHS_W0QQitemZ170214855519QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3318QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    https://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-HR-S9500U-DIGITAL-DIGIPURE-SUPER-VHS-ET-S-VHS-VCR_W0QQitemZ170214313380QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3318QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Best Wishes,

    Mitch

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