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Thunderbolt is here
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[Alex Geroulaitis] “SSDs take advantage of the bus power (single TB cable), in a way 3.5” hard drives can’t “
Just for reference, according to specs the Tbolt connection can deliver 10W of electrical power … ie enough to power a 3.5″ Hard Drive
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[Andy Mees] “Just for reference, according to specs the Tbolt connection can deliver 10W of electrical power … ie enough to power a 3.5″ Hard Drive”
Maybe a 5400rpm one? Black Caviars eat 10.7W at read/write, not including peak consumption at spin up and enclosure overhead (power and activity LEDs).
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[Andy Mees] “Just for reference, according to specs the Tbolt connection can deliver 10W of electrical power … ie enough to power a 3.5″ Hard Drive”
Bottom line, you’re right: the majority of today’s HDDs consume less than 8W peak – making it possible to run them on TB bus power. I stand corrected!
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Rafael, The new ThunderBolt Lacies are SSD. Two SSDs with 250gb per hard drive. Lacie does not say what the thru-put is. But SSD’s have a higher thru-put than a standard HD. So does a two drive SSD thunderbolt equal and 8 drive esata raid for performance on HD editing? Enquiring minds want to know.
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I’m seeing movie poster style advertising similar to the 2008 Disney movie: https://www.impawards.com/2008/bolt_ver2.html 🙂
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BTW I just read CNET saying the same thing. Thunderbolt PCIe cards and not viable.
10:25 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won’t be TB PCIe cards it seems. You’ll need a new computer.
Regarding laptops a bit more vague about using Express slots so if you have last year’s 17″ MacPro there might be some hope.
10:40 a.m. (Josh Lowensohn) : Q: Will we see add-on cards for laptops?
A: Like using the PCI Express slot? We don’t have a specific implementation to talk to you about that today.Read more: https://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-20035571-76.html#ixzz1Ez30mhCF
They do a good job covering the press conference in detail.
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I feel your pain.
I bought a NuBus Mac just a few months before they switched to PCI.
After PCI came out I thought the consolation would be that NuBus cards would drop radically in price. To the contrary the prices went up due to the demand for the legacy cards to keep people’s machines “fresh” for as long as possible. The result was that I either had to spend a lot of money for cards that would have a short life span or the computer had a short life span. I never made that mistake again.When the rumors of Apple switching from PPC to Intel hit, there were many forms in which “Pros” said
“Don’t worry, Apple won’t stop supporting you.” Well Apple kept going through Leopard and FCS2 but other companies moved to Intel only very quickly. As soon as I heard those rumors was “BS” I’ve been burned once already and didn’t buy a computer for a few years.As soon as LightPeak became clear to me in 2010 I decided I would not buy until LightPeak, now Thunderbolt, was implemented.
Some will say there will always be something better and what you buy is legacy immediately. My response is some changes are minor and others will push you to major retooling. To me, Thunderbolt is major.. Of course that doesn’t mean you need to buy the first generation though. Rumors are 2012 might be a major overhauls for MacBook Pros. My guess the “major” might be new cases, screens, SSD built in, but that’s not going to have as big as impact as Thunderbolt. I could see the adding an additional Fiber (current is Copper) port which wouldn’t carry power (there goes that crystal ball again).
Keep in mind the Thunderbolt products won’t be in full force until fall this year (moves beyond a trickle) my guess so you have some breathing room. You have to think of ROI so if you get a couple of $K use out of it and sell it for that much less, you haven’t lost anything at all. Even if all you do is learn, compare that to the cost of some classes today and you’ve certainly will have gotten your money’s worth. And of course your first jobs may not really depend on anything Thunderbolt offers. I think the biggest game changer right now is in laptops, which previously had limited connectivity.
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[Nate Stephens] “So does a two drive SSD thunderbolt equal and 8 drive esata raid for performance on HD editing?”
There are so many factors in play (drives, controller, internal bus, stripe settings) that it’s virtually impossible to say. Based on 6G MiniSAS tests though, an 8-drive RAID0 array will be faster (~ 900MB/s initially) than a 2-drive SSD RAID0 array (~840MB/s) in terms of transfer rates.
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