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  • Three Point Edit Bug in CC

    Posted by Jason Guerra on January 16, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    So I am exerpiance a very stange problem, with a very simple operation, and I have no idea why this is happening. I am using a three-point eidt to cover some heavy breaths in a voice over. I have 20 seconds or so of roomtone loaded into my source viewer. The roomtone has an in point a few frames in (to leave room for a transition) and no out point. On my timeline, I create an in and out point, around the audio I want to cover. The gap I am covering is usually only a few frames, a quick inhale, or weird mouth noise. I have done this, many times no problem.

    Today, everytime I overwite to replace the audio on the timeline, the clip is a few frames short of my selection. So, for example, I have a 14 frame selection in my timeline. When I overwrite, PP is only placing 11 frames from my roomtone clip. Again, roomtone is over 20 seconds, loading in the source viewer with only an in point. Timeline as both in and out point, so it’s a proper three point edit setup, and the is way more then enough material to cover the selection.

    If I have to roll out every clip I cover, it’s going to be a long day, so any help would be apperciated. I am using Premeire Pro CC (Version 7.2.1) on a Mac (OS X 10.9.1). I have uses these exact versions before, and not had this issue.

    Thanks.

    Jason Guerra replied 12 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Alan Balch

    January 16, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    [Jason Guerra] ” So, for example, I have a 14 frame selection in my timeline. When I overwrite, PP is only placing 11 frames from my roomtone clip”

    Hey Jason,
    I was having a similar issue earlier today working with graphics. I marked where I wanted my graphic to stop and then it would hit the mark and “skid” almost like a car trying to stop on an icy road( we have a lot of those this time of year in Illinois!)

    I noticed that there was an update for PPro CC available so I did it and now everything seems to be running just fine.

    You might check and make sure you’ve done that.

    Hope this helps.

    Happy Editing!

    Alan Balch
    Videographer/Carle Foundation Hosptial
    alan.balch@carle.com

  • Jason Guerra

    January 16, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Hey Alan thanks for the advise. I updated Photoshop and Illustrator last night, but, at least for me, CC isn’t saying there is a PP update. I’ll keep any eye out for an update though, maybe my system is just a little slow to see it.

    In the meantime, anyone else have any experience with a similar issue?

    Thanks!

  • Will Eccleston

    January 16, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Jason,

    In the interest of being able to update Premiere, you might first try manually downloading the latest Creative Cloud app from Adobe’s website. For some reason they can’t seem to make the Creative Cloud updating process work worth a darn. Many of us have to download the Creative Cloud app manually to ever see updates of other apps. It’s super frustrating.

    Will Eccleston
    Kinetiscape Films
    https://vimeo.com/album/132368

  • Larry Asbell

    January 16, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    There has been no update to Premiere Pro since 7.1.2 which was made available 27 days ago.

    I would speculate that the fix to your problem was more due to quitting restarting the program rather than the update. For some reason PPro seems to develop random faulty behaviors, solvable by restarting, more than a lot of other software.

  • Jason Guerra

    January 17, 2014 at 1:12 am

    Yeah, it’s the same 7.1.2 version I have used on similar projects. I seem to have narrowed the problem down to one sequence. All of the sequences are duplicates of a prebuilt template sequence, so I am not sure why just one would give me the problem.

    But, deadlines dictate, that it’s working now in my other sequences, so I just have to keep going with my fingers crossed that it doesn’t happen again.

  • Alex Udell

    January 17, 2014 at 11:56 am

    is there any kinds of a frame rate mistmatch between your source audio and the sequence setup?

    I’m not saying it should behave this way…I’m just looking at ways to save ya for now…

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Jason Guerra

    January 17, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    [Alex Udell] “is there any kinds of a frame rate mistmatch between your source audio and the sequence setup?”

    The source material is a variable frame rate screen recording, but it is standardized to 29.97fps before being imported into Premiere. And the sequence is also 29.97, so everything matches up.

    I originally thought I had narrowed it down to a particular sequence, but then, right after an auto save, it started happening in all my sequences. I did narrow it down to a specific track on the room tone. It only happens with I patch the fourth track on the clip to the timeline. Annoyingly the fourth track is really the only one I need.

    Thanks again for the help.

  • Jason Guerra

    January 18, 2014 at 6:52 am

    This has been a challengeing little problem for me. Each time I think I have norrowed it down it crops back up. That being said I have come up with a work around, that is working consistently. I thought I would share it, incase someone else has the same problem.

    The room tone clip I use has video, but normally, don’t patch it to the timeline. I noticed that when I did patch the video in, the correct number of frames where placed on the timeline. So I added an extra track above all the others, turned visibility for that track off, and patch the video there. When I was done with that sequence, I simply deleted the extra track.

    Still not as good as an actual fix, but much less time consuming then having to adjust each edit.

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