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Thoughts on a Pro-Final Cut Pro
A couple of us editors were talking about some of the things in FCP5 that are still a bother in a professional editing climate. I realize Apple is trying to shotgun and grab both the Pro and Prosumer markets with FCP, but I would really like to see some switches in User Prefs for the more seasoned editors….
For quick instance:
1)trimming. Sometimes you want to trim some picture, A side only. But unless you lock you audio tracks, it just won’t let you. We are assuming this is a “feature” to help people from accidentally losing sync audio. Unfortunately this happens even in say, a montage of clips with a random music AIFF that has no sync relation whatsoever to the video clips. Seasoned editors, especially AVID converts, are smart enough to keep these things in mind when trimming picture and will adjust for it. A simple user pref for us please!!!!
2) no nesting. something that would be enormously helpful. If you have a sequence loaded into the source monitor (say Scene 101, takes 1-11 which you’ve edited down to an efficient sequence of only the meat of the takes from “action” to “cut”) and you pick a take –> the abilty to mark in/out and put it into your record timeline without nesting, but rather as the master clip. This is a very AVID way of working, but it was more intuitive and time efficient than having to open the sequence of your takes, find that take, copy and paste it into your master timeline….. A Nest doesn’t give you a tumbnail or the original clip name; plus it a damn pain to add filters to a nest and then you forget and try to double click the clip to edit the fitler parameters.
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Oh! and trimming on multiple layers. So you have a stream on 1, and a clip on video 2. You want to trim that V2 clip in relation to where it lines up with V1. but the trim tool only shows you BLACK on either side when you’re trimming V2.
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[CharlieX] “Oh! and trimming on multiple layers. So you have a stream on 1, and a clip on video 2.”
I do asymmetrical trims like this all the time. But I trim in the timeline, not the trim window. In fact, FCP currently can do everything you mentioned it doesn’t do in regards to trimming, if you simply trim in the timeline & take care to select your tracks properly. Kind of like you need to select them properly in Avid to maintain synch ;-).
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Grab one sequence, Command-Shift click and drag into the next sequence, inserts all clips without nesting…
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yeah, i use this workaround as well. But some editors prefer the trim window… which is nice in some situations because it gives you +/- counts on your trims, a view of the A/B video, as well as a preview of your edit.
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!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it’s a little esoteric, but that’s EXACTLY it!
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Nice to see you here chawla. I think the Cmd key does it by itself, unless it’s been changed.
All the best.
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I think the default should be cut sequence to sequence without nesting and use the command key if you want to nest. Cutting from a select roll is basic editing 101. I hate having to hold down that blasted key everytime i want to make an edit. Definately on my top ten most anoying FCP features. Two of my other biggies while I’m ranting is the disabling of the audio meters and timecode displays during capture. End of rant.
CheersPeter McAuley
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Hey Tom and Peter!
I wouldn’t call this one of my top ten (more like a true uninstaller, a more reliable media manager, render controls that don’t resemble a flight computer, ditto sorta for multicam viewing options, yadda yadda), but if you are used to Avid flow, and many of us are, the nesting thing probably should be the option not the default. Hey, at least it ain’t Media 100 A/B Roll ;0) I gotta say that the Meaney crew is fixing stuff slowly but surely. Its come to be one hell of an app, even if it has some damned odd pathways.
I guess it boils down to whether you value FCP more for its AE-like behavior or its Avid-like behavior. Might be cool if they built an uber switch for Edit or Effects, that laid out a different workflow depending on what you’re doing- ooops, there goes the Avid thing again! See ya~
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Oh, I hope they dont do that, I really like that FCP is composite friendly without having to go to some other “mode”, this is my biggest gripe with the Avid interface (not DS). Please do NOT create different modes in FCP.
Paul
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