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Thoughts on 10.1.2
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Did they walk it back, or was this the plan all along? For me, it feels like a measured plan. It’s been a bt rough-shod at times, but the capabilities of Events have simply been folded in to a more powerful (and Finder logical) Library.”
Huh? How can you say that? The Events/Projects structure is completely different than Libraries. Especially since there was no way in the original to go into folders below the top of a drive. Seems pretty obvious that the first approach wasn’t working and had to be modified. Otherwise, why would you have lost the skimming ability that used to be there in the Project libraries? It was basically dumped and wrapped into the Events.
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[Oliver Peters] “Huh? How can you say that? “
I can guess just like everyone else.
In the beginning, Events and Projects were much less flexible. You don’t think that may have been on purpose?
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[Lance Bachelder] “The big still missing item for me is some sort of mixer. I’d even take just a mixer that showed all the roles – treat roles like busses so I could add say a compressor to each buss and control the level of everything with the same role. “
Exactly! And it should be easy for Apple to create a Roles Inspector.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You don’t think that may have been on purpose?”
Nope.
– Oliver
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[Oliver Peters] “Nope.”
OK. I do think it was on purpose. Whether that was through the OS not being ready, not having enough time to sort out Libraries before the launch, or because it may have been a purposeful and measured release in building a new platform and chose to launch features slowly.
It’s much easier to say that they didn’t take the path on purpose and it’s easier to say that Apple is incompetent, as it’s obviously a much more plausible conclusion with limited information. People are idiots, right?
The truth is, we will never know.
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[Oliver Peters] “I tend to be in the camp that feels an X/iMovie hybrid could appear down the road.”
FWIW… they are the same underlying app/code base. iMovie just has a different UI and only a basic feature set enabled. I believe this is also the case with Garage Band and Logic, though I haven’t poked around in the packages…
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Since this a pro forum, let’s assume that Apple is sincere about FC being a professional App (that even non-pros can afford/use). Why then would they fall behind CC in features by re-writing its organization structure … twice? And I think this probably was made way more time consuming by coming up with almost seamless updates of previous versions of FCP X. (too bad they didn’t do that for FCP 7). That is the program took care of updating your libraries/projects/events, allowing them to open in the new version. For me, both updates have been near perfect in this regard. Didn’t miss a beat and downloading from the app store worked well too, even when I have reinstalled the app as a fresh install.
My guess is that in the long run they see media management as the biggest thing there is for any artistic eco system. They have bought into 4K being the next standard and although 4K may or may not become ubiquitous, file sizes are getting huge and storage is becoming huge and keeping track of it all will prove more important than any other feature. There is no more tape you can archive and reimport into your new NLE or new raid. You loose or can’t find or corrupt your data, you’re dead in the water.
My guess is they thought putting it on the root level of any drive made sense. It is a common feature of cloning apps to allow root level stuff to stay put even if all else was being rewritten. It’s easy to find root level stuff. But it was a simplistic idea to have all projects in the same container. It worked for email and iPhoto and iMovie and the code was already there so they used it. But it was not practical.
The idea that the same app can be used for pros and beginners I think (if they are sincere) can be revolutionary. Why not continue to evolve as an editor using an app you already know? The one mistake they have made in this respect is instead of educating the beginners with the vocabulary that are used by pros, they have this habit of renaming everything. Then again so does every other manufacturer of pro gear. It’s marketing. Wrong headed. The more you confuse people the more they might feel intimidated and not want to buy a piece of pro gear, even though it would prove much more satisfying in the long run.
Case in point: I doubt very much that your average non-pro camera user, uses more than a tenth of the menu items on a consumer level cam. All these presets for different scenes and letting them control one manual function while the cam handles the rest and so forth. It’s a confusing mess. Now pro cams are pretty menu deep too. But give a beginner a lens that has a ring that when twisted increases or decreases the amount of light that reaches the sensor and you can see the effect on the LCD screen and bingo the next thing you know they understand F-stop and aperture and exposure levels. I know this. I teach kids consumer level and prosumer level cams all day. I teach them how to use the menu stuff on the consumer cam and they leave it on auto 99% of the time and sometimes it works and mostly it don’t. I give them a prosumer cam and the feedback and result of using just that one ring is like night and day.
Professional equipment should be easy to use on the elementary level. How many people never learned to cook because the pans they sell to consumers have such crappy heat characteristics that you’d need to be a genius to get a decent meal out of them.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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I don’t think so with Garage Band- The Logic Pro guys are way off in Germany. I don’t think they’re being developed by the same team. Can you even import GarageBand sessions into Logic?
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Well, to be fair, it was Mavericks which enabled Libraries (since you can’t have 10.1 on anything earlier)- so Libraries in their current incarnation couldn’t have happened before last year.
But I agree with the sentiment that this was not planned. The last two major updates have been about establishing an entirely new foundation for media management. No one sets out to do that.
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[Marcus Moore] “Well, to be fair, it was Mavericks which enabled Libraries (since you can’t have 10.1 on anything earlier)- so Libraries in their current incarnation couldn’t have happened before last year.
But I agree with the sentiment that this was not planned. The last two major updates have been about establishing an entirely new foundation for media management. No one sets out to do that.”
I’m confused here, Marcus.
On the one hand, you say that they couldn’t have Libraries without Mavericks.
On the other, you say they didn’t plan on that and that happened by circumstance?
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