Those who have switched, how are you getting on?

[Aindreas Gallagher]

I’m still sitting in my nappy screaming.
I haven’t really done anything bar poke repeatedly at FCPX on my lappie or at the store while swallowing bile and – checking out PPro 5.5.

there are actually no toys left to throw out at this stage. I have thrown every toy out about five times by now.

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[Frank Gothmann]

It might be too early to really give conclusive answers as things are still in full swing. MC6 just came out, CS6 could be a major upgrade addressing several issues and wishlists so it will be a gradual transition from FCS3 to whatever one might pick in the end.

As we all knew, FCS3 could do a lot a lot quite well, very few things perfect and some stuff not at all.
Both Premiere and MC can do some stuff pretty perfect but are not really suitable for others. So, I will be using more than one program depending on the job.
I will also be evaluating Edius and Vegas in the weeks and months ahead.

The best thing I am taking away from the whole FCP-X story (the app itself , the way it was introduced and the weeks following the introduction) is that I do not want to rely on Apple any longer.
And I am calling this a “best thing” because it’s been an eye opener for me in many ways. We got two HP z800s in and it is fantastic hardware with so many possibilities. I cannot put it any other way… it’s been a relief looking on the other side of the fence and seeing what is out there. There are better things to do than worry about what other other innovative/destructive/disruptive surprises Apple has up its sleeve and there are apparently enough people around who happily play along so those who jump ship and don’t look back won’t cause enough havoc to change Apple’s ways.

[Shane Ross]

Well…mostly I haven’t. FCP 7 still does 100% of what I need to do, so at least on the main job I have (my semi-staff position) we’ll be using FCP 7 for at least another year…well, until it no longer does what we need. And I still do a few side projects on FCP 7 as well…per the clients needs.

For other work I have gone back to Avid Media Composer…mainly older versions, MC5.0.3 that is on a PC…but also the newest version on my own rig for one job. And that is old hat for me…going back to what I left. But it is better now, more responsive, easier to do what I need to do.

But really…still using FCP 7 because that is what the company I am working for uses, and it still works fine. Although when I go from Avid MC on a PC to FCP on a Mac, my keyboard combinations mess up my timelines a little, until I switch my muscle memory back.

Shane
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[Chris Harlan]

I’m continuing to work with FCP 7, and see myself doing so for at least another year. I AM working Media Composer back into my workflow–right now I’m using it for Select Reels and rough edits to get my fingers back–while still finishing on FCP 7. With MC 6–and its enhanced ability to work with ProRes (the majority of projects I currently work on come to me in ProRes)–I’ll probably take it further and begin finishing the odd project with it in late Winter or early Spring. This will give both me and the version a chance to work bugs out. My guess is that it will be about 3 years before FCS 3 is pretty much gone from the Hollywood scene, give or take.

I’m enjoying some of the new MC features (on 5.5; I’m downloading 6 as I type) and am happy to be back with a few of the old. I love the K/L, K/J key combos, for instance, and have never quite understood why FCP didn’t incorporate that into its JKL setup. Other things still seem a little kludgy to me, but I expect I will just get use to that. And 6, on paper, looks like it will handle some of that.

I WILL miss the broad freedom of the FCP interface. Anywhere I go from there, frankly, isn’t quite as nice.

[Andy Neil]

[Chris Harlan] “I love the K/L, K/J key combos, for instance, and have never quite understood why FCP didn’t incorporate that into its JKL setup.”

Are you refering to slo-mo forward and reverse? Because those same combos work in FCP.

Andy

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[Timothy Auld]

Yes, the flexibility is what drew me to FCP to begin with. I’ve been working with Avid for almost 20 years and you still can’t have more than one timeline open at once. What the Hell is going on with that?

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[Shane Ross]

[TImothy Auld] “I’ve been working with Avid for almost 20 years and you still can’t have more than one timeline open at once.”

Can too. You can load one into the SOURCE side (The Viewer) and toggle back and forth.

Shane
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[Michael Hancock]

You can actually open as many timelines as you want – you switch between them using the fast menu in the upper right of the source monitor. They just aren’t tabbed like FCP.

If you want to cut between them or compare them do what Shane said.

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[Chris Harlan]

[Andy Neil] “[Chris Harlan] “I love the K/L, K/J key combos, for instance, and have never quite understood why FCP didn’t incorporate that into its JKL setup.”

Are you refering to slo-mo forward and reverse? Because those same combos work in FCP.

Andy
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OMG, that is SO funny. I had no idea. And, I tried every version to see if it finally showed up! And would mutter to myself that it hadn’t, and yet it was too small a deal to bitch about on a board like this. What a laugh. Turns out that if you start the move on FCP by pressing “K” first, which is what I generally do, there is a 3-4 second lag you have to hold for before it kicks into slow scan. On Avid, it goes immediately. So, every time I tried, I’d press the key combo and it wouldn’t work. It never occurred to me to hold it down for a full 4 seconds. Of course, if you start with “L” and add “k” the change is immediate, but I never tried to do that because I didn’t think the function was there. Dang. You learn something every day.

[Matthew Celia]

I’ve been dabbling in Premiere and it’s very familiar to me as a FCP 7 editor, but in the ways it isn’t, I find it very annoying. AE round-tripping is fantastic. It feels very snappy, although since my machine isn’t a CUDA one, it can’t play back in real time nearly as well as FCPX.

I’ve been getting along with X quite well, aside from some bumps in the road. Now with free automatic duck, free davinci resolve lite, and foolcut, it does 95% of what I need it to do. Would love better effects round-tripping…

Haven’t opened up FCP7 in a while actually.

Saw Avid MC6 demo’d recently and still thought it was clunky and unintuitive for me. I don’t get why you have to press a button and use the patch bay to trim clips. I don’t know, Avid to me has always seemed to get more in the way of storytelling rather than help it.

I hear what people are saying about moving towards PC and power to them, but I’d feel so lost having to learn how to troubleshoot and work in windows that I’d probably lose far more productivity than any speed I’d gain trying to have the latest and greatest – after all, everybody is leapfrogging each other in technology these days anyway. My advice is to pick something, be confident that it’s for you, and master it.

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