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  • This will be the end of me – Multiple filetypes in Vegas!

    Posted by Jesper Karlsson on March 5, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Hi!

    After nearly three weeks spent ripping my hair out, I have finally decided to give in and ask for help. There, I said it. I need help. I am in desperate need for help. I really been trying to solve this myself, but it’s just to much information to process. I am lost in the jungle of Project Properties, Encoding settings, Pixel Aspect Ratios, Media Properties and DVD´s. I knew to little regarding this in the beginning. I reckon that most of you guys are more educated in this area then myself, and I now wish that someone will find it in their heart to help me out. Thanks so much in advance.

    Ok, here we go;

    I am editing a movie. A skateboarding movie, to be precise. Source material comes from a bunch of people, and is filmed with a couple different cameras. Source material therefore contains multiple file formats. This consists of mainly four types, by witch I easily can combine three of them, but the third is REALLY KILLING ME.

    I work in Sony Vegas 9. My final output will be Standard DVD and Streamed Vimeo. My problem is only visible on DVD. I have been outputting a couple of test mp4´s. All of them have been pretty much ok.

    These are my four types of source material:

    PAL DV
    (filmed with my own camera)
    Shows up in G-spot as;
    Lower field first / Pixel Aspect Ratio = 1.067 / 720*576 / 25.000 fps

    MPEG 2
    (filmed M2TS with my friend’s camera, converted since my computer couldn’t handle it.)
    Shows up in G-spot as;
    Lower field first / Pixel Aspect Ratio = 1.067 / 720*576 / 25.000 fps

    PAL DV
    (filmed with the camera that’s later will be causing all the trouble)
    Shows up in G-spot as;
    Lower field first / Pixel Aspect Ratio = 1.067 / 720*576 / 25.000 fps

    PAL DV WIDESCREEN
    (This is the type who I just CANT fit with the others)
    Lower field first / Pixel Aspect Ratio = 1.422 / 720*576 / 25.000 fps

    Here is a sample of said format:
    https://www.ganget.net/sample.avi

    ——-

    After working pretty much non-stop for all to long, I can now easily fit the three first filetypes into the same timeline in Vegas. I can edit them, and put out a decent Standrad DVD and make a pretty ok mp4. BUT, then comes filetype number four. Feels like I have been trying every last setting. Mp4 seems ok, but I just can´t fit it with the rest of the files on a DVD. Filetype four clips seem to have some sort of Interlace error, and vertical lines are all to visable in clips witch contains motion. Ive been trying the Reduce Interlace flicker option in Vegas. It leaves me with no lines, but with a blur and a motion studder that I just cannot live with. Sadly.

    Another problem appears when I try to fix it. Thing is, since I didn’t film the clips myself or own the camera myself, I don’t now much about these files. I just found out the camera model, witch is a Sony HDR–HC5E. The first week of trying to solve my problem I was therefore sure that my issue steamed from it being a HDV camera hence producing 1080i clips. I am not so sure about that any longer. Judging by what Gspot, Vegas and TMPGenc tells me, the file seem to be Widescreen DV, same field order as regular DV´s but different Pixel aspect ratio. How is this even possible? I guess that my friends have captured the footage in some strange way.

    I would be forever grateful if someone could tell me just why I can’t fit these files into my DVD. I have been trying nearly every combination of settings. Ive been messing with Project Properties, Media Properties and Encoding Settings in Vegas. Nothing Works. Absolutely nothing. Where does the lines come from?

    (For those familiar with Vegas)
    1. What should my project setting be?
    2. Am I recommended to mess with the individual clip settings in the Project Media Window?
    3. What should my rendering MPEG2 for DVD settings be?

    Thanks soooo much in advance. I love you all for even reading this! If someone answers (and MAYBE eventually help me solve it) I would probably explode in pure happiness. If more information is needed, just tell me and I find it out.

    Have a nice day!

    /Storhuvve

    Stephen Mann replied 16 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Stephen Mann

    March 6, 2010 at 4:38 am

    Without looking up the specs of the camera, what I see are horizontal “lines” caused by shooting interlaced video on a CMOS sensor camera. This is the bane of CMOS cameras and you shouldn’t shoot motion scenes with them. They are OK for slow stuff, like weddings and talking heads, but skateboarding is a action genre and should only be shot in progressive or with a 3-chip CCD camera.

    Try de-interlacing the video.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

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