This forum’s name will change to “Apple Talk” in the new system

[Mark Suszko]

It does. The COW serves as a sort of “institutional memory” for a lot of folks, the wise old office expert that never retires. You may not want to keep all the sturm und drang stuff, or the petty slap-fights, but even some portion of that will have a certain value later… as a window to what people’s thinking was at a certain point in time. To know where you’re going, it helps to have some idea where you’ve been and how things got that way. If only so that we can question the underlying assumptions from time to time, and use that insight to move forward.

Thanks for all you and your “boss” have done and continue to do.

[Bill Davis]

[Oliver Peters] “Agreed. And alphabetical positioning makes a lot of sense.”

Probably just me, but when I sort by different criteria, different groups of posts appear or disappear from my pages. I just found half of these discussions that I totally missed a week ago.

Probably user error, but sorting “by thread” shows me a far smaller subset of these posts – while sorting “by recent” shows many different posts I haven’t read from weeks back.

Just a note for “management” if you’re working on the forum arrangement mechanics.

As to the topic at hand, I’m going to respectfully stay mostly out of this. If the name is something that attracts me to this spot, I’ll continue to be a presence. If I have to wade through over many posts debating topics that don’t concern me directly (which include lengthy discussions of other NLEs that I don’t use) I likely won’t.

If this is to morph into a sort of “all NLE” forum – that’s fine. But that is not what *I* am interested in. Because I don’t use “all” NLEs. I know some here wish to keep a wider NLE focus – and I respect that, but I don’t. This one is satisfying my particular needs incredibly well, and improving with each new release.

It attracted LOTS of eyeballs, to my understanding, precisely because it helped illuminate a CHANGE that we all had to come to grips with.

I question whether another, more generic forum brand will increase that, but that’s not for me to determine.

To the extent that place becomes the home to long threads about Resolve – and doesn’t focus on how X relates to Resolve – it likely won’t be my cup of tea, and not really worth my time. (I’d be debating something I’m ignorant about and I simply can’t imagine the need to go back to “track” thinking in NLE operations, since trackless editing fits my needs so well. Such is life.

Again, not saying the forum needs to be what *I* might want in ANY way. Just noting that for those of us who have selected our NLE – and don’t want to waste time engaging in MORE debate about other NLEs we don’t use – this just likely won’t be our home away from home like it’s been for the past decade.

And as X changes and continues to mature – or doesn’t (if it freezes in a couple of years after the 10 year plan is complete) IF this place has an increasing amount of “non-FCP X noise” – that simply means I’ll look elsewhere for keeping myself up to date on my tool. I have half a dozen active X forums I monitor, mostly Facebook Groups both public and private. And that’s enough to keep me content.

I’ll miss this if it changes into a more “general” forum, but oh well. Change is inevitable.

I hope the transition (whatever it is) is smooth and beneficial to all who have enjoyed this place – whether I’m a part of that or not.

Good luck.

Simple as that.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Ronny Courtens]

The tone of this forum is what needs changing, not the subject matter, IMO.

I couldn’t agree more. It’s exactly the tone of this forum that has driven away so many people from it. Whether this will change with a new name remains to be seen. I am a member of different general FB groups as well. Every time someone talks about a specific NLE in such groups, the thread gets flooded with brain-dead comments from both sides. Just like we see here much too often. No wonder people just lock into specialized forums where they can safely ask questions about their tool of choice without getting insulted. I am all open to giving it another try, but forgive me if I am very skeptic about all this.

– Ronny

[Scott Witthaus]

I think Apple Talk is a poor choice. It solves nothing and muddies the water. I certainly get taking FCPX out of the name as a good thing, but changing to Apple Talk doesn’t make a lot of sense.

I prefer the general direction of “NLE’s and General Discussion” or something that captures the topics on the forum in a better way.

Scott Witthaus
Visual Storyteller – FCPX, Premiere
https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Tangier Clarke]

Apple Talk is seems too broad-stroke to me. That could be anything and the forum could get wildy all over the place and before you know it we’re talking about things like Cyberdog and Hypercard to Mac Pro concepts that’ll never see the light of day. If a catch-all forum is the intent, then perhaps the new Apple Talk forum would be a good diversion from some of the other more focused forums as there’s sure to be numerous discussions going on.

How about:
NLE: Apple Versus
Apple Versus

It’s definitely an exercise trying to come up with a name that keeps the ‘debate’ focus while keeping it separate from the FCP X dedicated forum and not being unfocused.