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The world’s worst NLE keyboard shortcut defaults
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[Brett Sherman] “But I’m sure you’re right that FCP X’s layout can be improved. I just don’t think it’s awful (like FCP 7’s was).”
No one keyboard layout, no matter the app, is everything to everyone. Which is why you have something called the Command Editor?? I can either sit around and lament about how horrible every trivial everysomething is (if I have too much time on my hands) or simply change matters and get on with life. My choice. ????
And no kidding as far as 7 is concerned. Never understood why the various edit functions were on F-keys… huh? And I hardly knew anyone that even knew they existed i.e. used them because of it. Highly unintuitive.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “No one keyboard layout, no matter the app, is everything to everyone.”
What’s interesting about this thread is that it was only FCP X editors who thought it was a specific criticism of FCP X, rather that what it was: a generalised criticism of all NLEs.
Sometimes very specific details are interesting to examine more closely because they can potentially throw light on a bigger picture.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Walter Soyka] “As an After Effects user, Premiere’s default shortcuts mess me up big-time every couple weeks.”
Interesting. Because the epitome of two-fold stupid imho is that FCP X uses “A” for the default selection tool, but Motion on the other hand uses ⇧S which is probably the most obscure shortcut possible for probably the most important tool. What is on “A” in Motion? Believe it or not the “Record Keyframes” function… You wanna talk “messing you up”? Try that one.
Of all the things that they haven’t unified across the two (such as certain keyframe behavior, which I thought was completely superfluous), that somehow is still one of those things that haven’t made the cut… for the worse.
– RK
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[Simon Ubsdell] “only FCP X editors who thought it was a specific criticism of FCP X”
Just a crazy-wacky guess here, but maybe… just maybe… it was because you called out a specific FCP X shortcut? I know… it’s a stretch… ????
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Just a crazy-wacky guess here, but maybe… just maybe… it was because you called out a specific FCP X shortcut? I know… it’s a stretch…”
But that’s eaxctly what I didn’t do – I specifically referenced the shortcuts for Premiere and Media Composer in the same breath and without distinction.
In Media Composer it’s Cmd[ and Cmd].
In FCP X it’s Cmd- and Cmd=.
In Premiere it’s simply – and =.
Selective blindness there?
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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Sure, Simon. Whatever. Never mind that you are the one suddenly making this “an FCP X specific” thing right out of left field. But feel free to point the finger at others (me) in an attempt to project the underlying disingenuousness, we can take it. I mean, how could anyone be so completely stupid-fanboy, seeing that this is a post in the FCP forum? Totally crazy, right? ???? Had I commented on the Avid shortcuts it still, somehow, somewhere, would of course been turned into some kind of FCP X fanboy thing yadda yadda yadda, because that’s the spiel here… I get it. ????????
I merely answered to the FCP X example of your “problem”, not the others, since I don’t know the others off the top of my head, nor will I speak to their “worseness” bla bla bla. Turning that into some sort “Ooooh, the FCP guys are going all defensive crazy again!” thing is just plain…
… oh never mind. Do continue. It’s important. ????????
– RK
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[Simon Ubsdell] “It’s Cmd/plus and Cmd/minus if you’re using the extended keyboard.”
You didn’t say which keyboard at the top of your post. You just said this “In FCP X it’s Cmd- and Cmd=.”
Had you said on a “short keyboard” it’s “In FCP X it’s Cmd- and Cmd=.” that would have been more accurate.
I work on an extended keyboard, and the + and – keys are the closest keys to the mouse. No problem.
Just out of curiosity how would you do it differently for the short keyboard?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “What’s interesting about this thread is that it was only FCP X editors who thought it was a specific criticism of FCP X, rather that what it was: a generalised criticism of all NLEs.
“Some see windmills where there aren’t any 🙂
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Two people doing the exact same thing.
One sees it one way
The other sees it another way.Because the place they START from mentally is not precisely the same.
In this case, the starting point is maybe what form of keyboard you sit as most often.
For a thousand other debates here, the starting point is more likely the original system you were trained on – or the style your first teacher conditioned you into, or the shortcuts you’ve encountered and come to value that I might have skipped over in favor of others more suitable to the tasks I do most often.
On another forum I just had a sports oriented editor explain his use of the term “melts” to me in a post – something in 30 years of editing I had never once heard. I didn’t feel it made me any editor. Just an editor who’s never worked in a specific shop that uses THAT terminology.
I sometimes wish we could all be a tiny bit less pissy here – myself included – but then I realize that this is often the place I come to relax after some of my MOST stressful problem solving work is done – so I’ll just issue another blanket apology for the times I am unreasonably “tetchy” here.
FWIW.
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[Steve Connor] “Some see windmills where there aren’t any :)”
And they sometimes those “windmill seers” get Broadway plays written about them – but typically only ONCE and certainly not regularly!
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The shortest path to FCP X mastery.
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