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The world’s worst NLE keyboard shortcut defaults
Bill Davis replied 9 years, 4 months ago 17 Members · 52 Replies
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Oliver Peters
March 6, 2017 at 11:26 pmI’m not sure about the pros and cons of the design, but it has always struck me that FCP7 (and now X), as well as Premiere Pro, have way too many keyboard mapping options, because of all the possible layers. Somehow the two-layer Media Composer map generally works better – at least for me and many other editors. What I have always heard is that the original Avid design was based on where your left and right hands rest on the keys. That’s how we got JKL, for example, which everyone has followed ever since.
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Andrew Kimery
March 6, 2017 at 11:43 pm[Oliver Peters] “I’m not sure about the pros and cons of the design, but it has always struck me that FCP7 (and now X), as well as Premiere Pro, have way too many keyboard mapping options”
Too many options? Bite your tongue, Oliver! 😉
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Oliver Peters
March 7, 2017 at 12:25 amAnd how many keys can you remember? ☺
Oliver
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Andrew Kimery
March 7, 2017 at 12:36 am[Oliver Peters] “And how many keys can you remember? ☺”
Currently w/my PPro layout I’m up to about 40 programmed keys on my G13 and 6 on my mouse. Like touch typing, after a few weeks it all becomes muscle memory. A key part of it is keeping like-with-like. For example, Play Forward and Go to Next Edit share the same key (the later just gets a modifier). On the flip side I do have some ‘random’ combos such as Add Marker and Audio Gain on the same key and that’s a bit harder to remember at first because those functions aren’t associated with one another.
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David Lawrence
March 7, 2017 at 1:59 amI think you’re being cranky. ????
Frankly, I don’t care what keyboard buttons are mapped to zoom in/out because the first thing I do with any program where zoom is relevant is map to the side buttons on my mouse. I use a Logitech Anywhere MX which has two side buttons that ride just about the thumb. I use front for zoom-in, back for zoom out. Works for NLE’s, DAWs, and even Finder and browser windows (as forward and back commands). Feels totally natural and is super intuitive and easy to use. Problem solved! 🙂
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Jeremy Garchow
March 7, 2017 at 2:37 am[Simon Ubsdell] “I’m sure you know what it is.
“A/V Output?
Custom Roles?
Save?
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Jeremy Garchow
March 7, 2017 at 2:55 am[Simon Ubsdell] “What other keyboard defaults do you think are wrong? (Trust me, my list is much, much longer than this, but I’m not going to burden you with the full extent of it.)
“Since I have been in Pr, the keyboard command that is the weirdest for me is duplicate. command-shift-/ (or command-?)
Every time I need to I duplicate I say to myself, “command-shift-wtf?”, it helps me remember.
As weirdly complicated is “enable”, command-shift-e.
Zoom, in X, I use the zoom tool and lasso (Pr works the same), but I see your point in putting a zoom control set on the left side. I don’t know what I would give up to zoom on left, though.
Premiere’s constant track height adjustment on mouse scroll is maddening. So are tracks, they will never be enough kb shortcuts to manage tracks and track selection. It’s so much easier to just hit q and throw your selection in timeline and adjust if you need it.
Pr has a weirdly empty default kb shortcut set. More often than not, going to search for a shortcut ends up empty, like replace edits of any sort which are unassigned by default in Pr.
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Andrew Kimery
March 7, 2017 at 5:51 am[Jeremy Garchow] “Pr has a weirdly empty default kb shortcut set. More often than not, going to search for a shortcut ends up empty, like replace edits of any sort which are unassigned by default in Pr.”
I know, it’s just weird. And the FCP 7 keyboard layout is also oddly incomplete as well.
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Simon Ubsdell
March 7, 2017 at 8:17 am[David Lawrence] “I think you’re being cranky.”
You’re right of course.
But interestingly no-one has stepped up and claimed that any of these default shortcuts is a good idea.
Everyone, it seems, is using an alternative method to avoid having to be stuck with the defaults.
Which suggests that I’m cranky but not wrong.
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