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The world is a tough crowd right now.
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[Andrew Kimery] “From my experience the most vocal segment that’s not pleased w/FCP 10 are the exact opposite of the “I want everything for $50″ crowd. They are people that want a good steak, are willing to pay to get a good steak, and were disappointed when they were served a cheese burger instead. That’s much different than the crowd that wants a good steak but expects it to cost the same as a cheese burger.”
Well stated.
I know many who’d gladly pay triple the old price for a 64-bit version of FCS4 with an updated version of Color.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Bill,
I’m not sure why you would want to generalize the discussion here in a way that reduces it to “general angst”.
What I see and read is (amongst other things) people discussion specific issues and problems.
I am sure any one poster has lots of positive things to say about technology, process, and results. There are also lots of specific issues with FCPX and Apple that have been detailed.
If you go looking for complaints on the internet …
Franz.
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Franz,
I’m not “looking” for complaints. Just wondering why the general tone of so much of our discourse in the country is being reflected towards what I consider to be un-realistic expectations.
I think the Louis CK video was precisely on point. We do seem to want everything. We want it immediately. And we want it dirt cheap, please. Nothing else will do. And it’s incredibly easy to ignore the value of what we’re given if it’s not “ideal” to our thinking.
Like most excellent comedy, it’s funny precisely because it’s so rooted in the truth.
And it’s the blogospheres tendency to value “snap judgements” over thoughtful consideration – something I’m as guilty of as the next guy, but something I’m trying to suppress and wean myself off of so that the permanent record of my personal “thinking in public” here can be something I can be proud of, rather than just a compendium of emotional reactions to stuff that’s annoyed me.
For what it’s worth.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Ha! I was going to post the very same video. It does some it up.
“Give it a second”.
It is harder than ever to please customers these days.
Sometimes, expectations are simply unreasonable. In my journey, you know you have met experience and professionalism when the expectations are realistic, or when given a choice of seemingly unrealistic expectations, a person knows which ones to choose in order to move ahead. That certainly does not mean take the easy way out. It means achievable, perhaps through a ton of really hard work.
Marketing is marketing. Most of the time, it sells the dream.
What is missing from today’s voice is experience. Let me explain.
Keeping it in the digital camera world, all of these new products are brand new. New design, new directions and markets for companies, new philosophies, new technologies. Some of these companies don’t have a lot of experience in these markets, so it is all new to them. These brand new products get pre-announced, the hype and speculation machine is fired up, and they often get scrutinized before there’s even a product to hold in your hand. Yes, that is a tough position to be in. At that point, companies can do no right, and they haven’t even had the chance to prove themselves. Sometimes, the “right” that we clamor for is unrealistic. Truly.
But, give it a second. There are many advantages to these different camera systems, and price and resolution aren’t the only deciding factors.
Just anecdotally, let’s look at both.
Canon – More expensive, less resolution, cheaper memory cards, “easier” post workflow.
Red – Less expensive, more resolution, proprietary/specialized support gear for memory cards/readers that you must buy from Red, more expensive components, “harder” post workflow.
Really, if you add these all up, my bet is that they are both about the same price before you even get to post, in which the costs will be different there as well. And for the people that comment in one camp or the other, have they ever used these cameras? Have they ever graded from Raw? Have they ever had a feature length shoot in MPEG2? Do they understand the pitfalls and time constraints? These things are harder to value when you look at a sticker price.
People and companies make decisions. Both of those cameras represent a windfall of decision making, and I am sure that either product was not put out at the last minute. These are very deliberate products. The public reaction of those decisions can fly around the globe in a matter of seconds, for better of for worse, without experiencing anything first hand except a spec sheet.
It’s exciting, it’s scary, it’s new. We will all learn from it if you give it a second, and I agree Bill, it is a tough crowd out there.
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It’s called the last days. Or the apocalypse. Or 2011.
Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
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Interesting thread. I think in the pre-internet days we (many? most? some?) were always fussy complainers but had nowhere to vent except for the poor souls who tolerated our presence. Now we have an outlet. Other than that, nothing has changed. We always hated everything.
To the OP, thanks for bringing this up.
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[Rich Rubasch] “It’s called the last days. Or the apocalypse. Or 2011.”
Well, as we all know, the world is going to end next year anyway on 12/21/2012, according to the Mayan calendar. So, who cares?
On a more important note, since my birthday is actually on 12/21/2012, I’m wondering if I should consider scheduling my birthday early, on the 20th next year?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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You’d think the Mayan’s might have had a bit more consideration. Ten more days and we could’ve ended the whole damn thing on New Years Eve.
bigpine
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[TImothy Auld] “You’d think the Mayan’s might have had a bit more consideration. Ten more days and we could’ve ended the whole damn thing on New Years Eve.”
Well, New Years and even Christmas aside, had the Mayans been considerate enough to add just one more day, I could have had my birthday in peace.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[TImothy Auld] “You’d think the Mayan’s might have had a bit more consideration. Ten more days and we could’ve ended the whole damn thing on New Year”
That would be better. When the Christmas arrive in January 2013 won’t be nobody to pay them 🙂
rafael
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