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the verge explains apple photos, nilay whispers FCPX is the other shoe about to drop and die.
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[Shane Ross] “There’s no way Apple will kill it.
“Exactly. Look at what they’ve got in the content creation space. Logic X and Garage Band. Same app, different skin. Taking that into account, I’d bet more people are using “Logic” than any DAW on the planet. Same deal with Final Cut Pro and iMovie. Same app, different skin. I doubt any other NLE is even is the same ballpark as far as user base. And now, Photos. Which, it seems, can probably cater to both non-pro and pro in the same app. And remember, everyone who has access to Photos is using a beta. The *first* beta. The rest of us are only speculating based on seeing pictures/demos and using the iOS version. I’ll go out on a limb and say that it will have a lot more going on after it’s been out for a while.
As to FCP, if every “Pro” on the planet switched to another NLE today, “FCP X” would likely still have more users than any of them. Maybe more then all of them.
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Tony, Aperture is way more than a Photoshop stand in. It has the best DAM (Digital Asset Manager) of any of the photo centric programs. Plus the well thought out interface that is an Apple hallmark. Not separate modules you have to jump between to do necessary adjustment and management, etc. I do as much photography as video, and I am loathe to think of moving to LightRoom, which has literally half the capability of Aperture when it comes to photo management and organization. It is not just a bunch of folders primarily organized in the Finder that show up that way in LR. Aperture can also use that external management model, but it has a Library system that is far more powerful than LR. I have terabytes of photos in them, and also in separate backup folders that I could move to a non Library system if necessary. But I really don’t want to.
Will keep running Aperture as long as possible, for many years with my current Mac Pro 2012 (10.6.8 to Yosemite boots) and nMP 2013. With LR you have to export JPGS (poor subsequent editing and heavier compression) or TIFFs (huge also with poor editing) just to get them into LR from Aperture with any RAW Adjustments. Photos is supposed to import directly with adjustments intact. We will see on that. Capture One is looking like a better alternative to LR for Pro Aperture users, as they are implementing a direct import of RAW Aperture Libraries that maintain as much of the characteristics of adjustment and metadata as possible. Many call C1 the best RAW converter in the business, though I haven’t found anything to equal Nikon Capture NX2 for my Nikon cameras. Even after import to C1 the Aperture Library is still usable. And as the Libraries are directly importable to Photos, I may do some editing and organization there if I like it. Especially as improvements are added in subsequent releases.
As far as FCPX going away, not a chance. It is selling extremely well and selling Macs. More people moving to it every day and avoiding the Adobe rental trap. A no brainer. It is working very well for my needs, better than Premiere. At least they pay more attention to Macs than PCs.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.1.4, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.5, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC, 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1 TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD -
[David Mathis] “My understanding is that Photos is to replace iPhoto not Aperture. “
In terms of products, Photos replaces both iPhoto and Aperture. In terms of features, only time will tell if Photos gets to feature parity with Aperture.
On to the bigger assumption, I really doubt Apple is going to ax X, especially considering the big reboot FCP just went through. To be honest, I feel like a video editing app has a broader appeal than a photo finishing app. Besides organization, sharing and basic touchups/Instagram-style filters, what do most users want? On the flip side, with video people make everything from their own skate/ski videos to Star Wars fan films.
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[Andrew Kimery] “only time will tell if Photos gets to feature parity with Aperture.”
Yes. Photos may, upon release, be a pale shadow of Aperture, but like with FCPX, who knows where it will be in 2017?
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The only caveat is that Affinity Photo is a photo-editor and has zero of the digital assets management features Aperture held. Apple killing Aperture is simply sad as it’s one of the best DAM’s available. It’s just gotten old, like many of Apples pro-tools before they’ve eventually killed them off.
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Adobe needs one red haired step child in their line-up now that Bridge is killed off. Premiere will be there to be beaten and laughed at… 😉
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Well said!
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I’m very much looking forward to seeing if Apple has any usage numbers to announce at NAB. I’m wagering they’ll be much higher than presumed.
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[Erik Lindahl] “Premiere will be there to be beaten and laughed at… ;)”
That would work a lot better as a joke if Premiere wasn’t actually considered to be quite good now.
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Aperture doesn’t sell Macs anymore because you need a faster one to run it well. FCP X caused me to go all in on a very expensive high end new(ish) Mac Pro.
Considering they just bought a $1,000 per seat MXF plugin and rolled it into FCP X, I’d say everyone is safe for a while.
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