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The Real Menace of FCP X
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What?? You wrote a whole essay about Bill??
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@ SimonU:
What you describe is the pushback to a slamming of FCPX, which was mercyless, ignorant, condescending, without any limit of sane reasoning and
was mostly lacking any own experince and is in some places the current view on FCPX.This pushback in a way mirrors the hate recived by FCPX.
If you look at the political ‘debate’ these days, it mirrors the debate we see here.
One party tries to misrepresent, damage, silence, deplatform, violently protest and shut down the other party.
Maybe it’s time to give free speech another try and remember:‘The crucial prerequisite of intelligent disagreement — namely: shut up; listen up; pause and reconsider; and only then speak — is absent.’ . Bret Stephens
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I agree with everything Gregor said. The initial outburst against FCX was unreasonable though I was a part of it. At the time I was a kid who had no money but who had invested what was, to me at least, a huge amount of money in FCP because I thought I would build my future business on it. Then Apple threw my investment away a couple months later and replaced it with another program that, at that time, was totally insufficent to my needs. These days I could get by with it but there was no way to know that that would come to pass at the time. I was pissed. I would say both justifiably and irrationally pissed which is a good trick to pull off if you can do it. It turned out a lot of people could do it.
This has resulted in this absurd pushback from the Apple clan where FCX can do no wrong. FCX has no grading tools? Great, our program is unencumbered by specialist addons! FCX gets some basic curves tools etc? Great, just goes to show FCX is up to date with everything all the other programs have! Those new tools are broken? Apple is taking a bold new stance on these tools, reimaging the whole field! Apple fixes the broken tools? Look how quickly they fix their errors!
There is no reasoning with these people. Whatever happens is seen through a special lens that puts Apple always in the best possible light.
But it’s just a program and is not any of the things Simon paints it as. Even as a program it lags miles behind Premiere for professional users so any abuse about the direction of the industrry should be squarely laid at Adobes door. It’s followers on this forum are some of the most dogmatic people you will meet outside of a scientology convention but they are in no way representative of FCX people generally.
For most it is a tool to get the job done. Just as for me these day Photoshop is the tool that gets the job done. I rely on it and I love it but if you come to me and ask me what should be improved I will have two hundred complaints about how it can be better. That’s how a user should be. That’s how the huge majority of FCX users are. For some here FCX is something else entirely. But surely that’s the fun. If you’re going to have a decent debate you need some zealots to fire up the moderates or it gets boring fast.
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[Dominic Deacon] “This has resulted in this absurd pushback from the Apple clan where FCX can do no wrong. FCX has no grading tools? Great, our program is unencumbered by specialist addons! FCX gets some basic curves tools etc? Great, just goes to show FCX is up to date with everything all the other programs have! Those new tools are broken? Apple is taking a bold new stance on these tools, reimaging the whole field! Apple fixes the broken tools? Look how quickly they fix their errors! “
This has become an annoying straw man argument. It’s simply not true. You are taking the posts of a single person and expanding it to encompass everyone. That is offensive and dishonest.
I think what happens is when people suggest the lack of one or a few certain features in FCP X invalidates it as a tool, others who use FCP X push back and say, “actually it works pretty well for me regardless of some issues.” Let’s be honest, FCP X has no more or no less issues than any other editing program. It does certain things well and others not so well. The same is true of Premiere, Avid and any other.
And I think most of us are quite honest about it’s deficiencies.
Simon has become increasingly dismissive of FCP X. Fine, whatever. Don’t use it. There are those of us who ACTUALLY use it on a daily basis that are plugging away quite proficiently. Do I wish Apple was more energetic about improving X. Absolutely. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s the best tool for my work.
I also think it’s ridiculous to be dismissive about speed. But that’s a whole different discussion that I’m not going to get into here.
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[Dominic Deacon] “FCX has no grading tools? Great, our program is unencumbered by specialist addons! FCX gets some basic curves tools etc? Great, just goes to show FCX is up to date with everything all the other programs have! Those new tools are broken? Apple is taking a bold new stance on these tools, reimaging the whole field! Apple fixes the broken tools? Look how quickly they fix their errors! “
this is spot on for at least two of our forum members.
Most people on here can have a subjective conversation about any piece of kit – there are a couple that cannot which makes this “debate” forum rather frustrating at times, and one of these people will downright call you stupid for wanting more out of a piece of software you paid money for. Its crazy.
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[Neil Goodman] “Most people on here can have a subjective conversation about any piece of kit – there are a couple that cannot which makes this “debate” forum rather frustrating at times, and one of these people will downright call you stupid for wanting more out of a piece of software you paid money for. Its crazy.”
It’s a simple matter of ignoring them, blocking them or just marvelling at how ridiculous some of the comments are 🙂
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[Dominic Deacon] “Even as a program it lags miles behind Premiere for professional users “
Remind me again, why do some FCPX users push back so hard on here 🙂
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That’s exactly why he should not use the word “clan”. As the meaning of which is everyone who uses FCP X. The discussion on this board has become – “How dare the monolithic mouth-breathing FCP X users claim everyone else is a monolithic mouth-breather.”
Honestly, I think that’s why most actual FCP X users have abandoned the forum. I don’t know why I keep coming back.
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[Brett Sherman] “Simon has become increasingly dismissive of FCP X. Fine, whatever. Don’t use it. There are those of us who ACTUALLY use it on a daily basis that are plugging away quite proficiently. Do I wish Apple was more energetic about improving X. Absolutely. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s the best tool for my work.”
Exactly!
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[Brett Sherman] “Honestly, I think that’s why most actual FCP X users have abandoned the forum. I don’t know why I keep coming back.
“Because buried amongst it there is some EXCELLENT debate on here and Simon is one of the best contributors, Tim occasionally pops back which is always worth it and even Jeremy has taken some time away from his valuable contributions on the “other” forum to post here as well.
Perhaps us FCPX users should frequent the FCPX forum more? Remember how great the Final Cut Pro (classic) forum was?
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