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  • Ricardo Marty

    May 12, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    I read in a cne article that adobe had 8.5 million cs registered users and 4 million individual app usera, vs 479k cloud users. why risk all for just 479k?

    RM

  • Andy Lewis

    May 12, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    A lot of professionals who are complaining about this are going to be joining the cloud anyway – myself included, at least for this year. I won’t bore you with the reasons why, but I really have no choice.

    Adobe must have decided (with good reason) that their position is strong at the moment and that even a lot of very unhappy customers will still end up paying the tithe. Perhaps they also figured that their strong position in the industry could be threatened at any moment – so better lock people in now.

    Anyone working in either print/photography or editing/graphics (arguably) needs access to adobe software no matter how terrible the terms are. Maybe the Adobe CEO’s nightmare scenario was waiting a year to force everyone onto subscription to find that 12 months have changed the playing field and Adobe software is much easier to ignore.

    Imagine if this year:

    1. FCPX 10.1 turns out to be killer and (crucially) Apple brings out a stunning update to Motion.

    2. The 90% of photoshop users who don’t really need photoshop suddenly find an alternative – Pixelmator? Photoshop is surely vulnerable given how ugly and unpleasant to use it is.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    May 12, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    [andy lewis] “The 90% of photoshop users who don’t really need photoshop suddenly find an alternative “

    adobe hits back with a strong PR push.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPTc79Qw2g4&feature=youtu.be

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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  • Joseph W. bourke

    May 12, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    So Andy – what is it that you find “ugly and unpleasant” about Photoshop? I’ve been a user since v3.0, and, for what I use it for, as an adjunct to video production, photo retouching, and graphic design, I find it to be easy to use, quick to navigate, and generally a pleasant experience. Just curious…

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Andy Lewis

    May 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    Ha ha. I knew the second I posted that someone would take issue with that part. It is a very unfair summary of Photoshop. Photoshop is a beast in both a positive and negative sense. It’s deeply powerful and flexible and also feels (to me) like a bloated mess. This is possibly inevitable with software that does so many different jobs. I can’t blame Adobe for that, particularly as the software experience I’d compare it to is Lightroom which is beautifully optimised for one workflow and also of course, made by Adobe.

    The point still stands though, that Photoshop and After Effects are currently considered pretty much essential in various fields – and that could change. I’ll be checking out Pixelmator this year and I’ll also be on the lookout for an AE replacement to jump into. I actually like Motion but for all we know Apple might have decided to not develop it further.

  • Jim Giberti

    May 12, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Nearly spewed coffee at pre-stroked text, Aindreas.

  • Xavier Casado

    May 12, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I actually like Motion but for all we know Apple might have decided to not develop it further.
    Are you serious?

  • Dan Stewart

    May 12, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    [andy lewis] “Perhaps they also figured that their strong position in the industry could be threatened at any moment – so better lock people in now.”

    I think that’s right. How much further can they go with this software? I think they see the end of the road coming in a few years (barring incremental improvements that PR can’t use) and this is the account departments solution..

  • Joseph W. bourke

    May 12, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Andy –

    I didn’t “take issue” with anything you said – I asked you what you thought. Wow – who’s touchy here?

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Andy Lewis

    May 12, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Not touchy, I’m fine. The “Ha ha” was laughing at myself.

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