The old one still works

[Gary Pollard]

The station I’m working with introduced its editors to non-linear by using Avid. Then it went to FCP for the savings and dumped the Avid.

Some of the editors haven’t caught up with either yet. The ones near retirement can’t be bothered (I know, I know). Some just aren’t computer savvy.

Soon they will have to learn another software program. And as you said, it’s as easy to learn a completely new program (maybe easier) as it is to learn FCP X. I actually really enjoy learning new software, but many people either don’t, or don’t have the time.

Some in the broadcast industry are ALWAYS behind the curve simply because financial resource units are so slow-moving (with tenders, committees, and all that crap) that by the time they approve a purchase it’s out of date anyway.

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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

[Gary Pollard]

Hi Dennis, while you’re here, can you explain why Premiere has limited functionality in terms of importing from Elements, and in terms of transitions and effects on the Mac compared to Windows?

Is it an Apple issue or Adobe thumbing its nose at Steve Jobs?

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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

[Jamie Franklin]

[Stuart Cohen] “Have I missed out on something here?”

Yes, about 6 weeks worth of condescending and patronizing posts that suspiciously mimic yours….

[Mike Garrick]

I have calmed down I have gone into zen mode with the whole FCPx thing. Stuarts right FCP7 is still a great operating system & will continue to be so for some time to come. However one day it will cease to be relevant when some new “go to” file format of third party software is released. So until that time and in my zen mode, Apple has a limited time to address & bedazzle us with FCPX upgrades. Failing suitable ‘awesomeness” I will emerge from my zen state & jump to another NLE designed for professionals, no big deal, just do it & consign with a sigh a great editing system (that can & still does out perform Avid) to the dust bin of history.

[Jamie Franklin]

[Mike Garrick] “Stuarts right FCP7 is still a great operating system & will continue to be so for some time to come”

It goes without saying…but it’s argumentum ad absurdum. Or more specifically, white noise…

We get it. We got it the first hour. The first day. The first week. The first month. We’re now in week 6….When does it stop…..I think we have heard this white noise well enough…and maybe it’s time for the other side to finally understand, to finally get it…just because FCS wasn’t ripped off our computers, that doesn’t justify anything Apple did, not one lick, nor give license to be told to shut up

[Dennis Radeke]

[Gary Pollard] “Hi Dennis, while you’re here, can you explain why Premiere has limited functionality in terms of importing from Elements, and in terms of transitions and effects on the Mac compared to Windows?

Is it an Apple issue or Adobe thumbing its nose at Steve Jobs?”

This is not an Apple issue or Adobe thumbing its nose. 😉

The reality here is this:
– I know very little about Elements so I’d take everything I say with a grain of salt!
– Premiere Elements on the Mac is new to the platform and a stated consumer product at that so I’m not surprised.
– The Premiere Elements code base (on the PC) is divergent from Premiere Pro. For example, it’s still a 32-bit application whereas Premiere Pro is a 64-bit version. So, while they share a name, the demands of a consumer/prosumer are different in some cases from the Pro. That is, not all consumers want to go to a 64-bit native application.
– If this is something you want, I would encourage you to submit a feature request here: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

Thanks for your comment and input!

Dennis

[Gary Pollard]

Hi Dennis, these limitations are in BOTH Pro and Elements.

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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

[Dennis Radeke]

Ah, then I’m not understanding your question. Could you elaborate please?

Thanks – Dennis

[Gary Pollard]

Hi Dennis

Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Windows can open and work with projects created and edited in Premiere Elements. Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Mac doesn’t.

Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Windows has many more video transitions and video effects available than Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Mac.

As many moving from Final Cut will be considering using Premiere Pro on existing Mac systems rather than Windows, I’m just wondering if there’s a technical or marketing reason for this limitation in abilities on the Mac.

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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

[Dennis Radeke]

[Gary Pollard] “Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Windows can open and work with projects created and edited in Premiere Elements. Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Mac doesn’t.”

Ah, so I was right. My first answer applies.

[Gary Pollard] “Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Windows has many more video transitions and video effects available than Premiere Pro CS 5.5 on Mac.”

Well, there are some more transitions on the PC than the Mac, but I would question how many of the extra PC ones you’d actually use in most productions. They’re mostly cheesy… When we rewrote Premiere Pro for Mac in the CS3 timeframe, we went through the transitions and made some decisions on which ones would be most useful to the pro editors. We actually made some assumptions that the Mac customer we would be targeting (new for us in CS3) would be on the average more professional than our historical PC customer. So, to pick a pun, we ‘cut the cheese.’ Had to say it – sorry!

Again, if there are reasons you feel they should be on the Mac, the feature request form I put out there in the previous reply is a great place to log them – we look at them every quarter and tabulate the findings and prioritize accordingly.

Dennis