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  • The old flv vs H.264

    Posted by Vince Becquiot on October 9, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    After spending a couple of weeks coding H.264 fall fallback pages for client previews, I fail to see better quality in H.264 encoding vs flv at bit rates below 1 Mb/s, meaning most web encoding.

    In fact the H.264 (encoding out of QuicktimePro) suffer much more in motion areas than Flash encoded with On2. My comparisons are mostly at 900/1Mb/s.

    Any light on this?

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

    Daniel Low replied 16 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Craig Seeman

    October 9, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Apple’s H.264 is HORRIBLE by modern H.264 standards.

    MainConcept (Squeeze)
    Dicas (Episode)
    x264
    Matrox CompressHD

    All do better H.264 encoding.

  • Daniel Low

    October 9, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] “In fact the H.264 (encoding out of QuicktimePro) suffer much more in motion areas than Flash encoded with On2. My comparisons are mostly at 900/1Mb/s.”

    Encoding out of Quicktime pro is crap. You need to use a dedicated encoding application. H.264 is way better than anything from On2 can spit out, if done correctly.

    __________________________________________________________________
    “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.”

    Steve Ballmer To USA Today: 30 April 2007

    “We and Apple are neck and neck and we’re chasing the two
    other players,”

    Steve Ballmer, referring to Nokia and Research in Motion. October 6th 2009

  • Vince Becquiot

    October 10, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Great, I had used After Effects as well which yielded to similar results so I was led to think that was an expected quality, I will give Squeeze a shot, thanks for the insight.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Vince Becquiot

    October 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Gotta say, the squeeze export was like night and day.

    Thanks !

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Daniel Low

    October 10, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    As we expected.

    __________________________________________________________________
    “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.”

    Steve Ballmer To USA Today: 30 April 2007

    “We and Apple are neck and neck and we’re chasing the two
    other players,”

    Steve Ballmer, referring to Nokia and Research in Motion. October 6th 2009

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